Audio: Avreich Visits Lishkat HaGiyus
[Audio below.] Below is the audio of an American avreich from Mir-Yerushalayim visiting the Lishkat HaGiyus, the IDF Recruitment/Conscription Office, in Yerushalayim after he received a letter regarding being drafted into the Israeli army.
The avreich refused to provide his address, stating he feared that the police would come, beat him up, and arrest him.
Later in the conversation, when he explained that he learns in yeshiva, he was told by the army representative, “We don’t need so many people in yeshiva.”
The woman from the Lishkat HaGiyus asked him if he has heard of the Chok Tal.
“Chok Tal, Chok Shmal, I don’t know what you are talking about,” said the young man.
If I was Muslim would I have to go into the army?”
“No,” said the woman. An exchange ensued as to why Muslims are exempted from the draft. The woman could not explain why Muslims are exempt from the army but serve in the Knesset.
Click below to listen to the audio. Conversation begins at minute 2:45:
{Matzav.com Israel News Bureau}
39 Responses to “Audio: Avreich Visits Lishkat HaGiyus”
2. Comment from Thanks
Time December 27, 2012 at 9:19 AM
very entertaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3. Comment from yakov
Time December 27, 2012 at 9:22 AM
what a silly question why muslims are exempt from the army - would YOU like to arm Arabs with assualt rifles??
4. Comment from pathetic
Time December 27, 2012 at 9:32 AM
this is a newsworthy story????
the guy sounds like a real fool, and the first mitzvah is not to be one….
5. Comment from Torah is truth
Time December 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Got to admit Americans are the cutest and most couragous in confrontations..
6. Comment from Chaim
Time December 27, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Actually even frum muslims gladly serve in the Arab armies
7. Comment from heshy lowebnberg
Time December 27, 2012 at 10:08 AM
i luv kishke which they dont serve
8. Comment from Anonymous
Time December 27, 2012 at 10:28 AM
great stuff
9. Comment from Anonymous
Time December 27, 2012 at 10:50 AM
it is also illegal in many areas to record others without their knowledge or consent.
10. Comment from WolfishMusings
Time December 27, 2012 at 10:54 AM
If he received a letter, don’t they already know where he lives?
The Wolf
11. Comment from Anonymous
Time December 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM
CUTE
12. Comment from Not so simple
Time December 27, 2012 at 11:23 AM
He has a point if the reason for drafting chareidim is because “its the law” and nobody is above the “the law” then why are Muslims exempt.
And if you start to rationalize the about whole ideology of being a Jewish state then why not rationalize that without limmud hatorah the physical army is worth nothing.
13. Comment from GOODNESS GRACIOUS
Time December 27, 2012 at 11:27 AM
EVERYONE CHILL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
JUST SMILE AND LAUGH
DON’T TAKE IT SO SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14. Comment from mg
Time December 27, 2012 at 11:49 AM
I have to say I was very impressed by the woman soldier. She seemed like a very sweet and honest Jewess. My impression of the bochur he was looking for a confrontation. He also appeared to be very nervous
15. Comment from RCK
Time December 27, 2012 at 12:00 PM
Gantz Fine!
16. Comment from BeshteiEinayim
Time December 27, 2012 at 12:09 PM
I liked it. You know that sometimes a little “emes” like this Avreich did, showing them the inconsistencies in their approach, and invoking our history as “jewish” can do allot.
17. Comment from me
Time December 27, 2012 at 12:20 PM
this guy is my brother’s friend. i got this in an email yesterday from my brother.
all this had to happen b/c when his parents lived in EY for a few years when he was born, they never denounced his citizenship.
DON’T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18. Comment from Disrespect
Time December 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM
I agree the army should leave all alone –BUT c”mon
19. Comment from anon
Time December 27, 2012 at 1:14 PM
this person has chutzpah and is disrespectful and looking for a fight. She is so patient with him.
20. Comment from Dovid
Time December 27, 2012 at 1:21 PM
He wants to refuse, fine, but do it without making fun of people.
21. Comment from marco
Time December 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM
Smart guy lol..
22. Comment from marco
Time December 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM
the lady was very nice to him though.
23. Comment from marco
Time December 27, 2012 at 1:46 PM
wait a min how do we know that this was real. Why is an american being drafted into the army
24. Comment from me
Time December 27, 2012 at 2:14 PM
so not making fun or looking for a fight. i think everyone’s issue here is that we are very uncomfortable with the truth: that this so-called “Jewish” government sincerely “does not need people learning in yeshiva”.
face it folks - it may be a difficult pill to swallow - but that is the truth of their beliefs - “who needs Torah anyway?”
25. Comment from Jake from Ner Jake
Time December 27, 2012 at 2:45 PM
i loved it
same thing happened to me
26. Comment from snoopy
Time December 27, 2012 at 2:56 PM
She is a class act, and has a lot of patience
27. Comment from Torah is truth
Time December 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM
#17 BH I have never renounced the CITIZNSHIP of any of my kids and wouldn’t. Gd runs the world, remember that!! How about renouncing American citizenship cause we didnt want to send our boys to the Vietnam war….
28. Comment from anonymous
Time December 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM
I am not a legal expert, but I am afraid there can be harsh legal ramifications against this person
29. Comment from me
Time December 27, 2012 at 4:03 PM
#27 -
u are so wrong - please excuse me for saying so!
no further comment necessary!
30. Comment from gumball
Time December 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM
@23. Comment from marco
he was born in Israel that makes him Israeli. Also an American can be a permanent resident but not a citizen and still have to serve.
31. Comment from The Cohen
Time December 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM
The woman is doing her job and is is talking glatt, she is not responsible for government policy.
32. Comment from reality check
Time December 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM
#28:
If you are an American citizen living in the US, then you are right. But there is no reason why the Israeli government should have permanent hold over a child who happened to have been born during the short period that his American parents were living in Eretz Yisroel.
33. Comment from rabbi
Time December 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM
please , she wiped the floor with him.
you should be saying tehilim for this scary matzav.
34. Comment from anon
Time December 27, 2012 at 8:09 PM
Of course we need Bnei Torah to sit and learn and that protects E”Y, but what did he think he was going to accomplish by arguing with her. She doesn’t set the policy and wasn’t hired to defend the army or the government. His argument was correct but to the wrong channel.
35. Comment from Anonymous
Time December 27, 2012 at 9:33 PM
Someone said that it is just like the American Army during Vietnam. WRONG. Israel is one of only two countries in the so-called civilized world that does not allow for “conscientous objectors.” The US had such a status during Vietnam and even during WW2. They even allow for conscientous objectors today, with an all volunteer army!
The zionists simply do not allow you to have a conscience that is not in line with their totalitarian states demands
36. Comment from what?
Time December 28, 2012 at 12:48 AM
Why was this yungerman so courteous to that woman? He should have ripped her apart!!
37. Comment from Anonymous
Time December 28, 2012 at 6:51 AM
It is only illegal to record two people if none of the people being recorded consent (unless you have a court warrant).
You may record your conversation with another person - since you obviously consent.
38. Comment from ber
Time January 31, 2013 at 8:28 AM
al tarbe seecha im hueesha!
39. Comment from Mefaresh
Time February 28, 2013 at 5:14 PM
This avreich has been arrested as of march 1st 2013- he was abducted at 1 30 am.
1. Comment from bochur
Time December 27, 2012 at 9:18 AM
awesome!