GOP candidate Roy Moore on Sunday said he is fighting against both the Republican establishment and the Democratic party, claiming that both groups want his Democratic rival to win in Tuesday’s special Senate election in Alabama.
“The Republican establishment actually wants Jones in there because they think they can beat him in two years without a contest,” Moore said. Read more at The Hill.
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The GOP are the RINOs who keep undermining President Trump’s agenda and his every move and want to continue Obama’s legacy of destroying America. They are a disgrace to America and a shame to the world.
What exactly is Trump’s agenda? A trillion dollar infrastructure plan that will cripple the financial future of this country? Restricting free trade? Nationalizing health care? Dragging the country down the slope of immorality? He is a liberal, plain amd simple. That’s why he couldn’t even get a majority of votes in the Republican primary (Trump only got 44% of votes in the GOP primary!). He only won the general election because of all the union Dems who voted for him, they don’t mind having a liberal in the White House. Only the “establishment,” or RINOs, if you prefer, are against Trump, because they are the only ones who care about authentic conservatism.
So yes, they will keep trying to undermine Trump’s agenda. They will try to pass a conservative budget (almost worked, until Trump struck a deal with his friends Schumer and Pelosi). They will try to keep our free markets open. They will keep fighting to repeal Obamacare. And they will keep fighting to keep perverts out of office.
Dear RINO, you are so “conservative” that you would rather a liberal got elected in Alabama! You are so “conservative” that you refuse to vote for complete repeal of Obama Care when a President will actually sign it, while you voted for a repeal as a show when Obama was in office, since you knew he’d veto it! You are so “conservative” that you promote any baseless allegations of immorality as long as it fits your political agenda! “Truly, you have a dizzying intellect” to quote Westley.
Of course they want Moore to lose. The old time GOP (or “establishment,” or RINOs in Hannity-speak) still care about old-fashioned morality. Unlike all of our friends who just care about making Bannon happy.
Dear Hello, there was nothing immoral with an older man seriously dating(that is with a prospect of marriage) a physically mature teenage girl in the sense of traditional Southern morality; in fact, it was acceptable in most cultures throughout history and happens to be completely acceptable by Torah. In the South 40 years ago it was fairly common for a 15-16 year old girl to marry a man a decade or two her senior. In fact, 40 years ago, some states allowed girls to get married with parental permission as early as the age of 12, some 14. For example, Hawaii, not even a hillbilly state by the way, raised age of consent from 14 to 16 as late as 2001, while half a dozen of Western European countries have age of consent set to 14. While it is true that in our contemporary American culture, teenagers are considered kids, it was not always so, as humans happen to mature physically at the age of 12/13 and they used to mature psychologically way sooner than our pampered generation. So even if the false allegations against Moore are true, even if 40 years ago he did date some teenage girls with serious intentions and with their parents’ permition, that doesn’t make him some kind of an immoral child molester. If there is anyone immoral, it is people like you, who are manipulators and militant ignoramuses.
Wow. Did you think of that yourself, or is that the current Hannity excuse for Moore? Do you realize that this same line of reasoning can be applied to all redefining of marriage?
What has happened in the Trump era is that all that the GOP stood for for years is in the garbage. Morality is gone. Fiscal responsibility is gone. The victimhood culture has now come to the Republicans, as well as the entightlement culture. The sad thing is, all the talk show hosts who claimed to care about all those things are now throwing away all their values, just to protect Trump and Trumpetism.
You will keep voting in the Trump types. Anyone who objects will be called Rinos, you will accuse them of wanting the libs to win. In the end, you will have your party of Trumpets, you will have your trillion dollar projects, you will have government run healthcare, you will have politicians publicity bragging about their personal immorality. But you will be happy, not because the Dems have lost, no, you will be happy because the real conservatives have lost. Ultimately, that’s the goal of Hannity, Limbaugh and Bannon, to destroy the GOP and replace it with their own brand of expensive, deficit increasing nationalism, one with it’s own set of entightlements and government dependence. Who needs Bernie when you have Trump?
Dear Hello, “Redefining of marriage”?! Having a bad reading comprehension day, aren’t you? I just proved that traditional marriage, throughout human history and various cultures, was not limited to the arbitrary age of 18. Your only claim is to say that it is the law now – to which I retort that 40 years ago in Alabama it wasn’t. Actually, even at present, the age of consent in Alabama is 16. Where is your “immorality” argument now?- that’s right, in the toilet. Admit your intellectual defeat as opposed to embarrassing yourself even further with your feeble minded arguments.
Both of your posts here are a mish-mash of distortion, misdirection, made-up facts, silly name-calling and (second post only) hilarious, baseless arrogance.
Ready? Here we go:
“there was nothing immoral with an older man seriously dating(that is with a prospect of marriage) a physically mature teenage girl in the sense of traditional Southern morality”
The two women who said he “did things” (this is a frum site, hence the circumspection) while they were underage, as well as the other woman who said he did things without her consent weren’t on “shidduch dates” with him. And a man in his thirties ogling and dating high-schoolers is something that most people would find immoral and distasteful, legal or not.
“…and happens to be completely acceptable by Torah.”
So, Rivka’s age at the time of her marriage to Yitzchok is your guide for contemporary marriageable age? And it’s OK for a father or older brother to marry off a ketanah?
“In the South 40 years ago it was fairly common for a 15-16 year old girl to marry a man a decade or two her senior.”
Where do you get that from? Several people have said that Moore was known as a creep back then, and teenage clerks were warned about him, precisely because he was interested in high-schoolers.
“For example, Hawaii, not even a hillbilly state by the way, raised age of consent from 14 to 16 as late as 2001…”
Even if true,so what? California doesn’t even have a legal minimum age for marriage. Per Wikipedia, ” In 25 states, there is no statutory minimum age if other legal conditions are met.” And, once again, most people would think there’s something very wrong with a man in his thirties going after fourteen and sixteen-year-olds.
“While it is true that in our contemporary American culture, teenagers are considered kids, it was not always so, as humans happen to mature physically at the age of 12/13 and they used to mature psychologically way sooner than our pampered generation.”
No, forty years ago, things were pretty much as they are today. A twelve or thirteen-year-old would be a seventh or eight grade kid, just like today.
“So even if the false allegations against Moore are true, even if 40 years ago he did date some teenage girls with serious intentions and with their parents’ permition, that doesn’t make him some kind of an immoral child molester.”
False? With more than multiple accusers and more than thirty witnesses to those accusations at the time they happened?
Serious intentions? Says who? He certainly doesn’t, since he denies everything.
And what the two underage accusers of non-consensual acts say he did is textbook child molestation.
<em"If there is anyone immoral, it is people like you, who are manipulators and militant ignoramuses."
Ah, the name calling. A cat can’t change its stripes, can it?
“Admit your intellectual defeat as opposed to embarrassing yourself even further with your feeble minded arguments.”
Ah, hahahahahahahaha. Stupidity, ignorance and arrogance epitomized. Nice!
The Rinos must be removed from Congress as they are a hindrance to the future of our Nation. They are even worse than a pure Democrat. At least a Democrat, like Cory Booker & Kristen Gillibrand, we k ow where they stand. Destroy America and turn it into a 3rd world country free of white males. It’s the sneaky sleazy rinos who go behind your back and then stab you. The Bush era is OVER.