Natruna Runs Anti-Israel Ads On Shows of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin
Yesterday, March 24, the Jews Against Zionism group ran an ad on WABC, New York’s premier conservative talk radio station. The ad ran once during the Rush Limbaugh program and then again during the Mark Levin show.
The following is the text of the ad:
This message is brought to you by True Torah Jews, an international organization of hundreds of thousands of Jews who are true to Torah and Judaism.
On the occasion of the current meeting between Prime Minister Netanyahu of the State of Israel, and President Obama, True Torah Jews would like to remind the world of the existence of large communities of anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews, whom Netanyahu and his state cannot claim to represent.
Our disapproval of Netanyahu is compounded by the fact that he insists on building new housing developments in East Jerusalem, angering the United States and the other nations of the world. The Torah commands Jews to be respectful to the leaders of their country and to all world leaders. And the Torah commands Jews to live in peace with their neighbors in all countries.
We support President Barack Obama and his dedicated administration, and continually prays for his success and wellbeing. And to Netanyahu we say: You don’t speak in our name!
Unfortunately, those behind these ads, as well intentioned as they may be, have not yet realized the potential dangers caused by their efforts.
{Noam Amdurski-Matzav.com Newscenter}
39 Responses to “Natruna Runs Anti-Israel Ads On Shows of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin”
2. Comment from Armageddon is Approaching
Time March 25, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Turncoat [deleted by moderator]!
3. Comment from syt am
Time March 25, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Noam. I understand the effort and devotion for the subject from your side. But first what I realized that the source of you not only information but perhaps also Hashkufa for you is not the Torah and Chazal but some entertainers paid for what they preach. And they preach, but not our religion.
Than… If you mixing NK and Natruna for lack of proper information than you should spend more time on the field of your own and learn basics of who is who in anti Zionist community. If you mixing them purposely you are not the first to do so but this is not journalism what you do. Either way it is propaganda what you do.
And once more, what is so danger about telling the world that Netaniahu does not represent Jews? Does he?
4. Comment from shvigger
Time March 25, 2010 at 7:45 PM
Right on the money. Netanyahu does not represent all Jews or Judaism, for that matter.
5. Comment from Serious One
Time March 25, 2010 at 7:45 PM
They do realize what damage they are causing. They’re idiots and zealouts. They even once said that they understand the suicide bombers. They said then that everyone that lives in the Zionist country deserves Misah!
We ought to declare once and for all, these are no more than a handful of insane and sick people!
6. Comment from yasha
Time March 25, 2010 at 8:01 PM
chilul shem shomayim bfarhesya-
afilu misa lo michaper
7. Comment from chaimz
Time March 25, 2010 at 8:03 PM
syt am you are making no sense. What are you writing?
8. Comment from Dovid
Time March 25, 2010 at 8:19 PM
I agree with these ads. It lets the world know Judaism isn’t monolithically supporting or condoning Ziuonism c’v.
9. Comment from Agree 2 Disagree
Time March 25, 2010 at 8:20 PM
1) I agree with the message.
2) I dont agree with the medium
PS-I dont associate with NK
10. Comment from Confused
Time March 25, 2010 at 8:25 PM
Could someone translate syt am’s post into english for me? Thanks!
11. Comment from CHAVAL
Time March 25, 2010 at 8:41 PM
I think syt am should use spell check and have an English speaking friend type his comments.
I agree with his premise. No doubt, like most Israelis, Netanyahu has a lot of chutzpah, not necessarily to our benefit. The Israelis need lessons in diplomacy.
12. Comment from chaimz
Time March 25, 2010 at 8:49 PM
While Zionism is not condoned, all sane Jews certainly do not support arab ownership of any part of Eretz Yisroel. Only these crazies who make believe that they represent more than a handful of other crazies make statements and take actions that hurt us. The arabs are laughing at these deluded fools and taking every advantage of them.
Netanyahu certainly doesn’t represent frum yiden but his arguments in this case are valid. Arabs can’t be allowed a toehold in governing Yerushalayim and anything that weakens that statement ultimately hurts Jews. It is frigtening to think about what lies in store for the Jews who choose to help murderous arabs over their brothers.
13. Comment from Anonymous
Time March 25, 2010 at 8:53 PM
The headline is misleading. Neither Limbaugh or Levin (or their syndicators) had ANYTHING to do with selling NK the time. As the article points out, NK ran the ads on WABC — the LOCAL station. The ad times they purchased were during those shows. Just like with TV, where the networks have their ad time and the local affiliate has their ad time, syndicated radio shows have a similar advertising arrangement: time during the show is set aside for the local affiliate to sell to whomever they want. That is what this was: a LOCAL, not national, deal.
14. Comment from HUH!!!
Time March 25, 2010 at 8:54 PM
We are angering the nations of the world by OUR EXISTENCE, don’t you understand this has nothing to do with territory, building permits or peaceful negotiations. This is an outright war between Moslems and Jews.
ISRAEL = Jews
Jews = Israel.
Stop this ridiculous rhetoric about who represents Jews and who doesn’t. Since the death of Moshe Rabbanu and the Kings of Israel, we have lost our representation in the eyes of the world. Jerusalem belongs to the Jewish people, Arabs in Silwan are living in Jewish homes from the early 1900’s and we will continue to aggravate the world until our demise - WHICH WE NEVER HAPPEN.
NK go and bake matzohs, do something worthwhile instead of patronizing all the anti-Semitics of the world.
15. Comment from Pikeach
Time March 25, 2010 at 9:22 PM
No one is officially labeled an sonei yisroel - until it has the support of the NK.
So Mr. Obama, congratulations!
16. Comment from syt am
Time March 25, 2010 at 9:24 PM
I have to admit, that indeed my English writing isn’t perfect.
It is my third language and I learned it in my thirties never have an opportunity to take real lessons. My friend who usually helps me is shopping for Pesach. So, you have to move little bit of you American brain and try to understand my post.
It looks to me, that some of other guys did understand what I write. If you comment was only to discredit my message than you may add that my breath also is not of the best quality.
O! Chaimz! Second post. Now I understand why you don’t understand my in fact poor English. But I’m afraid that it is not the language what is the problem…
17. Comment from Yitz
Time March 25, 2010 at 9:39 PM
My Big kashya for the (Best website in the world) matzav readers is: Are these Things (Neturei Karta) considered tinok shenishba?
18. Comment from Ahmanijad
Time March 25, 2010 at 9:41 PM
I support these lovely people they even came to visit me in Iran and they even gave me lots of hugs and kisses
19. Comment from syt am
Time March 25, 2010 at 9:47 PM
And now.
Pushing Americans for another war for Zionist government, supporting by any means brazen Zionist leaders and angering nation who give us shelter, certainly isn’t save for Jews. Not here and not there.
Even if Arabs would take the whole Eretz Israel but Jewish lives would be saved it pays. For simple reason, Jew doing Mitzvois, is worth more than dead Jew and the path chosen by Zionist endanger live of the Jews more than any thing else. There is no Mitzva of giving the live for the land.
We started with Bovel it cost us first Bays Hamikdash [ Yirmeyuhi (Hashem) opposed the war], second we lost because we underestimated Roman power. The third Hurban happened because we dreamed to be like other nations.
Now we will fight another Rome? This is what is INSANE.
PS I don’t know anybody from Natruna.
20. Comment from ilen
Time March 25, 2010 at 9:59 PM
HEY! THIS IT NOT NK!
This ir another totally diferent organization!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21. Comment from Torah is always true
Time March 25, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Syt am: Still do not understand what you are saying, I will wait till your friend is finish shopping. Kol tuv - the comfort for klal yisrael is “heney lo yanum vlo yeshan shomer yisroel”.
22. Comment from Dovid
Time March 25, 2010 at 10:09 PM
#14
State of Israel ≠ Jews
Jews ≠ State of Israel.
23. Comment from Dovid
Time March 25, 2010 at 10:14 PM
Rabbi Yitchok Hutner Z”L:
Sadly, even in our own circles, the mold for shaping public opinion lies in the hands of the State of Israel. An appropriate example of this dangerous process of selectively “rewriting” history may be found in the extraordinary purging from the public record of all evidence of the culpability of the forerunners of the State in the tragedy of European Jewry, and the sub-situation in is place of factors inconsequential to the calamity which ultimately occurred.
To cover its own contribution to the final catastrophic events, those of the State in a position to influence public opinion circulated the notorious canard that Gedolet Yisroel were responsible for the destruction of many communities because they did not urge immigration. This charge is, of course, a gross distortion of the truth, and need not be granted more dignity than it deserves by issuing a formal refutation. However, at the same time as the State made certain to include this charge as historical fact in every account of the war years, it successfully sought to omit any mention of its own contribution to the impending tragedy. While the State omitted in its own version of history is the second of the above-mentioned new directions in recent Jewish history. It is that phenomenon which we must now examine.
24. Comment from Dovid
Time March 25, 2010 at 10:16 PM
It was in ‘48 when the state of Israel was established. The Brisker Rav got so ill from the fact that they created Israel that he had to stay in bed.
The Chazon Ish heard about this and he sent a message to the Brisker Rav:
“Dont worry Brisker Rav, gezeirah avidah libatlei” (Hashem can nullify the and decree - Hashem will make sure Israel is dismantled).
The Brisker Rav sent back to the Chazon Ish: “When is it true that gezeirha avidah debatlei - that bad decrees are annulled- that is only when the people realize it is a bad descree. But I am afraid,” he said, “that this bad decree, the people think is a good decree, and so I am afraid that it will be here for a very long time.”
In other words, the solution to the State of Israel tragedy is to realize that the State of Israel is a tragedy, and then Hashem will help us out of it.
Hashem doesn’t take away problems unless you want Him to. And you cant want Him to unless you realize it’s a problem.
So understanding why Zionism is bad is itself the solution to Zionism.
25. Comment from The Rov
Time March 25, 2010 at 10:17 PM
“HaRav MiBrisk”, vol. 3 page 322:
“Chazal teach,” said the Brisker Rav, that after Matan Torah, the act of the Yetzer Horah was successful, to make the Jews sin with the Egel.
“Success such as this,” he continued and said, “like this, that they were able to create the Medinah, such success he [the Satan] did not have throught all the generations sicne the Egel.
“The Brisker Rav held the poition that this Gezeirah of the establishment of the Medinah, is not merely another suffering among the sufferings that befall Klal Yisroel during Golus. But rather, it is a specific suffering that was that was awakened from Heaven specifically in our time, specifically on the people in this generation, because of their sins.”
26. Comment from chaimz
Time March 25, 2010 at 10:45 PM
This is getting very confusing and off-topic so let’s try to clarify. The ‘medina’ was wrong l’halacha. No question about that. Giving the land to the arabs today means the death of every Jew living in Eretz Yisrael. No question about that. The Brisker Rov’s and Chazon Ish’s statements are of course 100% true, as always.
They would never advocate giving today’s arabs power in Eretz Yisrael because that means mass murder of every yid. The creators of the egel have succeeded in putting us in a situation where we can’t burn it this time. The best we can do is be mispallel for Moshiach, but giving up our lives by surrendering to arabs is wrong.
What do today’s gedolim say on the subject? I haven’t heard that we should give everything up? Please correct me if I’m wrong.
27. Comment from a yid
Time March 25, 2010 at 10:59 PM
The ads were absolutely not done by NK it was done by “NATRUNA” or “TRUE TORAH JEWS”.
This organization has the official support of many.
Just check out there website truetorahjews.com to see for yourself.
28. Comment from Torah is always true
Time March 25, 2010 at 11:15 PM
Dovid, I guess it is time for both sides to admit guilt.
By the way. Rav Hutner zt”l spent a year learning with and from Rav Avrohom Yitzchak Hacohen Kook.
29. Comment from Satmar Rules
Time March 25, 2010 at 11:20 PM
THese people are crazy and they shouldnt be listened too!!
30. Comment from HUH!!
Time March 25, 2010 at 11:31 PM
Dovid, yours and my opinion and view on the issue really is not what holds any water. We are less than 1% of American society.
GET IT STRAIGHT, in the eyes of the World:
ISRAEL = JEWS
Jews = Israel.
31. Comment from shragi
Time March 25, 2010 at 11:37 PM
Yemach Shemo!
32. Comment from Mistake
Time March 26, 2010 at 12:08 AM
Neturei Karta Runs Ads On Shows of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin
Big Mistake: No This is not Neturei Karta,
This is “Natrune”
check out there site, http://www.truetorahjews.com
33. Comment from noah
Time March 26, 2010 at 12:08 AM
we are living in a world where everyone has an opinion and feels free to flaunt it any way he wishes.
this is a very very delicate subject, what do you think the chufetz chaim or the chasam sofer would say. would they allow this method?
we need gedolei yisroel to pasken of such issues, not a gang of self proclaimed leaders.
34. Comment from ilovejews
Time March 26, 2010 at 2:57 AM
Israel is the home land for the jewish people, this ppl who say they are “true jew” are far from it, may they see the true light.
35. Comment from Avi Kane
Time March 26, 2010 at 5:50 AM
These idiots are rodfim. What right do they have on recommending the deaths of yidden–while they live in Brooklyn, Monsey, and London?
East JErusalem includes: the Old City, Ramat Shlomo, and Ramot. Giving these to the Arabs means that the Hamas will have another Kasssam launching pad.
36. Comment from A bruch
Time March 26, 2010 at 7:15 AM
First of all I think its pretty clear to see that this add was not paid for by neturei karta, because neturei karta are on the same team as achMADinejad, who hates Obama, and wishes and dreams of israeles demise, and probably will pick up on destroying america after that, and second of all the neturei karta, albeit the handfull of them, consider the entire yishuv in eretz yisroel to be a calamity which they have to get rid of, and so they are against international law too, which at least recognizes the dangerous 67 which may or may not be a platform for the international countries for an eventual hope of israeles destruction, and third of all this orginization is advocating lies too, because there are no hundreds of thousands of jews with them, and fourth of all, while Obamas agenda may appear to be not necessarily anti semitic especialy due to his hiring so many jews in his cabinet, well truth be told it is a cover up, much like the nazis used the kapos in the holocaust maybe not for a cover up but their agenda the were used thats for sure, and so would somebody have the audacity to say the nazis liked jews oh please, jews were simply being used for a coverup of their true agenda. And so please everyone remember the true agenda of our muslim president, and bare in mind a few facts #1. No world leader has ever been humiliated by an american president the way the jewish leader was, (whether you agree with bibis handling of israeles jewish identity or not fact remains that he’s jewish and was treated with extreme humiliation) Was treated. And secondly lets bare in mind that nor the brisker ruv nor the chazon ish agree with Obama or neturei kartas and americas and irans, plan of dismantling of the state which is through alot of jewish bloodshed no question and if the brisker ruv were around he wouldnt look at this jewish anti semites nor shake their hand, and would probabaly ban them.
37. Comment from MAASER
Time March 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM
This is a terrible chillul Hashem of the highest order!
38. Comment from out of towner
Time March 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM
I realize that this was a local decision, not the syndicated shows’, but you all can still boycott WABC if you want to make a statement.
39. Comment from Der Alter
Time March 27, 2010 at 7:12 PM
I think that we are all so involved with this issue, that no one ever made an apology to Sys Am
Chag Pesach Kasher V’Sameach to all
1. Comment from syt am
Time March 25, 2010 at 7:20 PM
And what the danger is?