The New Times’ Christopher Mele and Maggie Haberman report that while for Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner, celebrating the presidential inauguration by attending the gatherings on Friday night posed an obstacle to their Yiddishkeit, they “got special permission to break from strict religious laws that prohibit them from using technology or mechanized devices, such as cars, during the Sabbath.”
The Times says that “a Jewish person who was briefed on the matter but not authorized to speak publicly about it” said on Friday night that they were “given an exemption under the principle in Jewish law of pikuach nefesh, which suggests preserving the safety of a specific person over any religious consideration.”
{Matzav.com}
A Jew being driven by a non Jew in a car is permitted in certain cases. Every Shabbos yidden leaving emergency rooms that are a distance from home,take non jewish car services.
Since when do we care about opinions of New York Times
+Torah is truth
If your complaint would be with the New York Times for quoting “an anonymous [Jewish] source” about something, that would be one thing.
But from what I’ve read here, I don’t see where the New York Times, or any writer for the New York Times, is offering any opinion whatsoever on the halachic matter substantively being mentioned.
I’m wondering if the New York Times published a quote, which they said was a complete non-edited quote on some Jewish matter, where the quote was said to be from a particular Jewish authority [Rabbi] who you greatly respected, would you completely reject that particular information as being “the opinion of the New York Times” ?
And just lastly, as a gesture regarding my bona fides on this matter, and that I’m in no way inclined towards being prejudicially in favor of something / anything because the New York Times happens to print it, let me close by stating that there are few of the major general popular news sources, printed within the United States, where I’d imagine I’d have generally LESS of an inclination to look to for my general information collection, for, say, news or opinion having to do with anything to do with Eretz Yisrael, or news or opinion having to do with politics in the USA, or new or opinion having to do with politics within the USA as would relate to Eretz Yisrael, etc., as I would the New York Times, which is a newspaper whose published work I have, within recent years, developed a more or less overall TOTAL disdain for !
Todah rabah, Torah is truth. : )
This could have some serious implications to those who are truly Shomrei Mitzvos in a professional environment. “Hey, if Jared and Ivanka can work on Saturday, why can’t YOU?”
Hashem Yishmor.
Hope no one would learn from them!
Quoting your words: “Jared and Ivanka can work on Saturday” — THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT THEM!!!!!! Instead, what WAS said was that since (in the circumstances of where they were going to be) there were, Chas V’Shalom, life threatening dangers, then, according to the directives of our Torah itself of Pikuach Nefesh, Jared and Ivanka were permitted to ride there in a car.
There is no heter. There is no pikuach nefesh here, since they could have stayed home and not ridden in the motorcade at all. They were also taking photographs on Shabbos.
We are going to have to deal with this in the long term.
Correct. Going to a dance friday night and going to a church service with a priest on Shabbos Morning is definitely the right thing to do because of Pikuach nefesh.
I like these people.
Maybe church is ok as long as you make it before barchu?
I didn’t see mention of church.
At least they asked…
Try walking home in Washington with thousands of wild crazy violent protesters. Their life would be in danger.
Trump, his wife, children and grandchildren spent Friday night at the White House. His daughter, Ivanka, and her husband, senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, were seen snapping photos Saturday on the Truman balcony with a young girl who appeared to be their daughter
This from an article I just read…pekuach nefesh? Not quite sure. When u look for liberties on shabbos, makes it easier to fall…Otrhodox? I’m not quite sure…
Are their pictures of them doing this??
” Going to a dance friday night”
You mean, like in Europe, where the chasunahs were on friday afternoon, and they would hire a goyishe orchestra to play on friday night for the seudah? (orach chaim 338:2)
Not a paradigm of Orthodoxy.
If it was the other way around and Hillary had won, would the media question Marc Mezvinsky for driving on Shabbos? I think not.
Mezvinsky never said a word about being a Jew; & will openly admit that he’s not Orthodox!
Its real chilul hashem!!!
Gossip!
Wholly inappropriate for Matzav to report!
…“got special permission to break from strict religious laws that prohibit them from using technology or mechanized devices, such as cars, during the Sabbath.”
WHAT!?!?!?
Pikuach nefesh?
Interesting…..
there are red lines that separate a shomer Shabbos from a non shower Shabbos
And we believe The NY Times and their information because they have such a good record in honest and truthful reporting?
When you will have the Nisayon of attending your father’s inaugeration then you’ll be able to judge!
I can say with reasonable certainty not only I wouldn’t attend my Father
Wouldn’t attend his own inaguration
If it involved Shaabos
When Prof Auman was going to get an
Enormous prize from the King of Sweden
On Shabbos he said he couldn’t come on Shabbos .The king agreed to wait till after
Shabbos and the way the King of Sweden
looked at Prof Auman when he greeted
Him and shoke his hand, you can see the
King looked up to Prof Auman as if he
was the real king!
What a beautiful kiddush Hashem!!!!
Is snapping pictures on Shabbos Pikuach nefesh as,well…a few sources brought that report.
And posing for a photographer before leaving is allowed? Seen a picture before she left to a ball…
quite questionable…very questionable.
Nothing personal, but facing reality..
Did they daven at the Lubavitcher shtibel in DC with the Rebbe’s shliach Levi Shemtov yesterday morning? Did he give them permission?
Why does one take anything the NY Times says as serious?
Just ask yourself, would our forfather Yosef done the same to help his people Egypt?
And all you YENTES , give it up look at yourself first then you can say something about others
How can this be a kiddush Hashem
Unfortunately a big chillul Hashem
How many yentas in Brooklyn and other areas put on lipstick on Shabbos.
I myself have taken a ride on shabbos in a car driven by a non-jew. A rav gave me a heter that the place I was can be a sakanas nefashos and that I am allowed to take a car home! instead of all of you guys screaming bloody murder, shut up! You don’t know their circumstances so just stop making up halachos that you know nothing about! To the the person who said that they were spotted talking pictures on shabbos morning. You believe everything you read? Are you crazy? Grow up all of you and get a life!!