Photos: Gathering in Monsey Led by Rav Zalman Leib Teitelbaum Against the Israeli Army Draft (JDN)

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  1. a bit of backround
    this was b”h indoors
    this was more of an info gathering explaining to the monsey satmar whats going on and thats the pic with some panelists
    it was also done to pacify the eida members on why america is doing nothing about it
    lastly it raises a few dollars to fund an office in e”y that helps people w the paperwork
    who is that sheinerman guy

    • If it weren’t for the IDF – the shlichim of HaKadosh Baruch Hu – the Arabs would slaughter, chas v’shalom, every Jewish man, woman, and child in Eretz Yisroel.

      • They’re 100% NOT shlichim of Hakadosh Baruch Hu. If anything, they cause anger to Hakadosh Baruch Hu that causes Hashem to turn away from this army. As it’s CLEARLY written in the Torah (Devarim 23:15) “velo yero’eh becha ervas davar veshav me’acharecha”. The Torah says BEFEIRUSH that if immoral people join the army, Hashem will turn away from them and not protect them ch”v.

        It’s ONLY because of Torah learned in Israel that the Jews in Israel are protected today. It’s a miracle that after all the filth and lawlessness in this army this country exists and can even fight against the Arabs.

  2. Please stay in NY. No army=no israel. The young men/women put there lives on the line every day, so you can visit in safety. I’m Appalled at the mass group of ingratitude. These ingrates are the anti torah. Stay in golus. But when you visit thank a soldier, even in Brooklyn Yiddish.

    • You have no problem with this anti-Torah G-dless army secularizing religious Jews? Don’t believe it? Read R’ Meir Ettinger’s article from this week how he describes (in Hebrew) the high percentage of religious soldiers leaving Torah and yiddishkeit and the goal of the army is to assimilate the chareidim into secular society.
      The fact is, most soldiers in the IDF are chayev karas! Hashem yerachem!

      • I agree. I was in Passaic several months ago for a family simcha. The majority of the newcomers are very sincere, Haredi-type, ba’aley tshuvahs.

  3. TO Sour on Satmar and its ilk

    IF SOME ONE FROM USA WANTS TO GO TO THE ARMY LET THEM GO THE ARMY OF U.S.A. THERE ARE ALLOT OF SHOMRIE TORAH IN THE U.S.A. TO PROTECT. BUT IF YOU GO BY WHAT I BELIEVE SEE THILIM KAPITAL 127 “IM HASHEM LO YISHMOR EER SHOVE SHOKAT SHOMER” THE ENTIRE ISRAELI ARMY IS SUCH A WASTE.

  4. Today is not winning. The IDF is King David’s army. We either fight or become placidly reminded that the flock is wrong.

    Grit is never funding tradition less a king. Hashem our king is our king. If King David is in the bible, why not revere his ways that were to his success. He built judaism.

    Grit nervous days. The IDF draft is careful bet right.

    Sorry.

    • David built Judaism?
      Please don’t espouse apikursis on this website.
      Your lack of knowledge is not an excuse to spew your stupidity.
      No yireh
      Scary

    • King David army, Moshe Rabbenue’s army, the Macabees all had JEWISH armies consisting of HOLY YIREI SHAMYAIM and YIREI CHET men only (no women) that in their merit the land was protected!
      On the other hand, the IDF is a melting pot of secular G-dless anti-Torah immoral soldiers, including women. They cause anger to Hashem that causes Hashem to turn away from this army. As it’s CLEARLY written in the Torah (Devarim 23:15) “velo yero’eh becha ervas davar veshav me’acharecha”. The Torah says BEFEIRUSH that if immoral people join the army, Hashem will turn away from them and not protect them ch”v. It’s ONLY because of Torah learned in Israel that the Jews in Israel are protected today. It’s a miracle that after all the filth and lawlessness in this army this country exists and can even fight against the Arabs.

      • Hop along. The jews live with women. They daven separate. You are not davening in the trenches if you are there to fight. The lady might bring her physical strength. It is an army and not a bakery.

        Go name a chassidic mens only unit. I am sure it is easy if not already done. Religious preference must is a real fight. Do it from within.

        Sessions of Torah ARE Israel. We can support.

        Do not assume that A student at 18 does not hope a full life. His maximum study is most likely through many years. The IDF service is test Hashem adds. We serve and Torah is gained by Hashems touch. A lifetime; not a young adult never to be anything but angry at G-d. We have need and we WILL serve.

          • It may be, but they are clear. The syntax is given. In all, I have a code of Torah learning and the words I write form. If the gist is obvious, the political position is easy. Allegory added is just fun.

            Best.

          • Tidy work. My father was a blessed careful scientist. His father sold shoes and owned a shoe store. I took to medical professions and am suffering ailments given more time online. Need me? I guess I’ll just be online a bit. Moon by moon for now I get to daven. Our family hopes to think progress.

  5. As a flatbush frum Jew I oppose the drafting of any religious Jew in the israeli army,even those not in yeshiva. An army that corrupts young girls and mixes them with boys as well as toeiva sinners is no place for a real yid. The israeli army is number 9 on the list of 101 world Armies that is Toeiva friendly. Even France is number 10 and America 41. No normal parent should allow their kids to join such an Anti Torah brainwashing agency.

  6. i lived in EY many years ago and even then the army was a shmad machine. BUT are the activities of groups like peleg–endangering people in the street–what our g’dolim have in mind?

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