Start of Chanukah To Fall On Thanksgiving For Only Time In Next 79,000 Years…


obama-chanukah1It’s a turkey. It’s a menorah. It’s Thanksgivukkah!

An extremely rare convergence this year of Thanksgiving and the start of Chanukah has created a frenzy.

There’s the number crunching: The last time it happened was 1888, or at least the last time since Thanksgiving was declared a federal holiday by President Lincoln, and the next time may have Jews lighting their candles from spaceships 79,043 years from now, by one calculation.

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  1. Moshiach has to be here before then, because there is a more critical problem with our fixed calendar: in a few thousand years, Pesach will not fall out in the spring unless an adjustment is made to our calendar.

  2. If anyone want to understand this, remember we lose a day compared to the Gregorian Calendar every 100 years (i.e. Mashiv HaRuach moves from Dec to Dec 5 and then to Dec 6 in the year 2100). It would take roughly 79,000 to go around the entire cycle to get to the point where 25th of Kislev could be as early as Thanksgiving. We know that cannot happen, and if it could then we never would have used a 365.25 day year, rather would have used the more precise year – otherwise in 50,000 we would start Mashiv HaRuach on Erev Pesach.

  3. #1, what do you mean “Moshiach will be here before then.”?

    Do you mean:

    a) Chanuka will no longer be celebrated?

    That is disputed. See here:

    Perhaps, you meant:

    b) The world will be destroyed by the year 7000.

    This too is disputed. See here:

    Or, perhaps, you meant:

    c) The Sanhedrin will change the calendar by then to allow Hannuka to stay closer to Thanksgiving.

    This may just happen. They may move it so that it could come even before Thanksgiving too.

    Or, perhaps, you meant:

    d) America will be destroyed by then and there will no longer be Thanksgiving.

    Possible, and judging by past world history, likely.

    Or, finally, perhaps, you meant:

    e) Jews will no longer be in America by then since Moshiach will bring everyone to E”Y so the thanksgiving we will be celebrating is offering up our Korbanot Todah.

    Gut Gezugt then.

  4. hmm…
    How did you figure that out? You are right!
    2070 – First day of Chanuka is Thursday, November 28, the last Thursday (obviously) in November.
    First Chanuka candle is Wednesday, the night before Thanksgiving. Exactly the same as this year.
    I’m surprised nobody mentioned this before you. I’ve heard others talk about the 70,000+ years until it happens again.

  5. There’s another error here. Thanksgiving is always the fourth Thursday in November. In 1888, the first day of Chanukah was on Thursday, November 29 – the fifth Thursday, a week after Thanksgiving.

  6. Somewhere in Colorado there is a naval observatory with a telescope that magnifies objects millions of times.if that telescope was aimed at my head,it couldn’t detect one iota of interest I have if Chanukah falls out on thanksgiving or not.

  7. Of course, Moshiach will be here by then. By the way, to answer one of the commenters question about Chanukah (whether it will still be celebrated) – I think both Purim and Chanukah will always be.