ברוך דיין האמת – TRAGEDY IN BROOKLYN: Young Couple Killed in Accident, Newborn Baby Survives

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glauber[Levaya info below.] Williamsburg – A young frum couple who had taken a car service to Bellevue Medican Center in Manhattan for the birth of their first child were killed en route in a hit and run on Motzoei Shabbos, but their baby boy survived, born prematurely, authorities and a neighbor said.

The driver of a BMW slammed into the car carrying Nachman and Raizy Glauber, both 21, at the Kent Street intersection in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, said Isaac Abraham, a neighbor of Raizy Glauber’s parents who lives two blocks from the scene of the crash. Both of the Glaubers were pronounced dead at hospitals, police said.

Their infant son was in serious condition at a hospital, said Abraham, and the driver of their car was in stable condition, police said.

Both the driver of the vehicle that hit the couple’s car and a passenger fled and are being sought, police said.

http://analytics.apnewsregistry.com/analytics/v2/image.svc/AP/RWS/www.huffingtonpost.com/CAI/huffpostDA4PM4883/CVI/DA4PM48831362321900/MAI/huffpostDA4PM4883/E/prod/AT/AThe driver of the vehicle that hit the couple’s car fled, police said. No arrests have yet been made. Click here for a video report on the tragic accident.

The baby boy weighs just four pounds and is in serious condition but is expected to survive.

Umacha Hashem dimah me’al kol ponim.

Update: The levaya will be held today, at 2 p.m., at the main Satmar Bais Medrash at 152 Rodney Street in Williamsburg.

{Noam Amdurski-Matzav.com Newscenter}

68 COMMENTS

  1. Two Yiddishe neshamos R”L.
    Grieving Parents and grandparents, R”L.

    How do people go on? Mi Sh’Omar L’Olamo Dy, Yomar L’tzarosaynu Dy!!! Genug Yiddishe Korbanos!

  2. There are R”L many traffic accidents, these days, where R”L lives are being claimed.

    The reason for these innocent Korbonos could possibly be R”L due to the lack of Tznius in Bnos Yisroel, which must be rectified.

    From “Modesty – An Adornment for Life,”

    “Basing himself on the Ramban, who establishes the principle that ‘Punishment is meted out in the place where sin occurred,’ the Steipler Gaon ZT”L said that the reason for the terrible Midas HaDin on the roads is that nowadays the roads are the prime places where much of Pritzus occurs. The Pritzus involves women who do not dress correctly or cover their hair properly, and men who look where they have no right to look. Therefore, the Midas HaDin has chosen the roads and streets as the appropriate place to punish.”

    I hope that IY”H we don’t have to pay with more Korbonos, C”V.

  3. BS”D
    A message from Moishela
    A handicapped child

    PREPARE YOURSELF THIS MINUTE for WHAT IS COMING

    I will just repeat some of what I have said already, but I also want to emphasize it strongly.

    We are soon going to be in a raging war. The war has already begun. The world economy is going to crash, not fall; crash. Its already sliding down at the speed of sound. While the world has become more and more chaotic with very lively and violent demonstrations in almost every country of the western world and the Arab world and China, Russia everywhere.

    We here in Eretz Yisroel are still strolling around leisurely buying falafel, ice cream, and the likes, planning our trips to America to Europe etc. True many people are feeling here in Israel the economic pinch, but still we are generally trying very hard to be oblivious to what is happening in the world. The Jewish population of Europe and America is using the same type of “head in the ground” Shita, just not to admit that this superficial world that they have built out of materials that are not able to withstand the Truth is about to fall and disappear into oblivion. They refuse to admit that the life of endless Bar Mitzvahs endless expensive Gashmiusdik weddings endless shopping, shopping, and more shopping, endless stuffing themselves with foods in restaurant after restaurant is almost at an end. Not just that, we are entering a time of deprivation, a time that will herald in the end of the world as we know it.

    If you feel depressed by what I am saying, you will feel even more depressed if you don’t prepare yourself this minute for what is coming. This minute. I repeat again. Prepare yourself this minute for what is coming, because its coming very soon.

    You will not have anyone or anything to depend on. Not your Social Security, or your Bituach Leumi, not your pension in any country, not the almighty dollar. It will be worthless. Not the Sterling, or the Euro, or the Yen or any currency. Gold will be extremely valuable, but how much gold can you carry around, and how much gold can you be sure no one will steal from you? Tzva Hagana L’Yisrael (the Israeli Defense Force) will be in shambles. The Knesset with all its evil and lying politicians will disappear. The medical profession will crumble. Will we have the basics in our houses like water, electricity etc.? That we’ll have to wait and see. I doubt it. We will be totally dependant only on Hashem, which is the true reality always. We’ve become so dependant on the lies that people have told us. We trust only the banks which will fall, the insurance companies which will fall, in our cell phones which won’t work, in electricity which will disappear, foods once easily gotten which will be much more difficult to get, and it goes on and on. We’re a stupid society that put all of our eggs in
    one basket. For example what is the world going to be without electricity? How will the modern world survive? How can we live in a world that everything is based on electricity? Absolutely ridiculous!

    Am Yisrael COME BACK TO Hakodosh Boruch Hu. He is Hakol Yachol, not the electric company, and not Bezeq or ConEd, and not any other company. Only He, Hakodosh Boruch Hu, the Ribono Shel Olam, the Ruler and Creator of the world and all that exists, and when you learn to depend on Him you can never be needy of anything. He creates it all. He created us, and all the worlds and everything that exists and with Him we can always be sure that our needs will be met. Bitachon in Hashem, my dear Yidden thats what will save you. You better get your act together, because if you don’t you will be doomed to oblivion, Shelo Naida.

    SO AGAIN I BEG all those Yidden who are living in Chutz Laaretz, try your hardest to make your way here. If you cannot do that be sure that you make your way to Hakodosh Boruch Hu and for those who do make their way to Eretz Yisroel, I suggest you do Teshuva very quickly. Start this minute. You know your Aveiros. The biggest Aveira of this generation is the lack of Kedusha. The Kedusha has almost disappeared from Jewish life, almost, Boruch Hashem not completely. The Jews are confused and do not for the most part know what Kedusha means.

    We built a community, a Frum community not based on Kedusha at all. Only a flimsy structure that once was the base of our Kedusha. Once we were the shining example of holiness, holiness in dress in speech, in thought in every way but now we’ve become dirtied and sullied by the Goyisha world. We’ve taken pride in making a Jewish community, so-called Frum community that looks like Goyim, that acts in many instances like Goyim. What can I tell you? We must do Teshuva. We must, must, must do Teshuva. If you don’t do Teshuva before you come to Eretz Yisroel, or at least be in the process, your coming will have no meaning. And those who cannot come now at least come close to Hashem and trust Him and get rid of all the Gashmius that you can that’s not absolutely necessary, and if He sees, so to speak, that you trust in Him, that you believe in Him, that you accept Him as Hakol Yachol, then you too will be saved.

    Am Yisroel, its over! The Golus is ending and with it the world. The world of Sheker that we’ve been living in since the first man ate from the Tree of Knowledge, since the Nachash (snake) twisted man’s thoughts and had him eat from the tree, the Etz Hadaas. So please take my words seriously. They are truth!

  4. There are R”L many traffic accidents, these days, where R”L the lives of young children and Bochurim are being claimed.

    The reason for these innocent Korbonos could possibly be R”L due to the lack of Kovod Bais Hamedresh which include both talking during davening and krias hatorah and the KIDDISH CLUBS which must be stopped

  5. Perhaps all that associate with Orthodox Jewry should make an effort, starting right now, to be scrupulously honest in all business transactions with Jews and non-Jews, and to be a true Or L’goyim in the ways of ethics and morals. We also need to stop disparaging non Jews, for we can’t show them the way if we are demonizing them.
    In this way, we can honor these niuftarim

  6. All tzoros are “chevlei Moshiach” as labor pains before birth,so are the tzores of klal yisroel before moshiach comes, Hashem should have rachmones on us and turn all those tragedies into happiness, BIMHEIRO BEYOMEINU , OMEN

  7. Can people please refrain from giving reasons the second something happens and try and at least show some feelings.

    Maybe tomorrow you can give us your reasons for the tragedy. But today (before the kevura!) the right thing is commiseration.

    (oh, maybe it happens because people are failures at bein adam lchaveiro)

  8. ??? ????, ???? ????? ???? ???? ????? ???….. “??”? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ????? ???????? ????? ????? ??????? ??? ????? ???? ????????” ?? ????? ??? ??????? ?? ????? ?????, ????? ???? ??? ?? ?? ?? ????? ????? ??? ????

    ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ??? “????? ????? ???” ??????- ???? ????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ?”? ?? ??”? ???? ?? ???”? ?? ????? ?”?, ”’?????? ????? ???? ??? ??? ????”’ ????? ???? ?????? ???? ??????, ??? ???? ??????? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ??????

    BD”E beyond tragic and sad, This is so heartbreaking, Very sad night/weekend. FOUR Jewish fatalities… Glauber couple tonight in willi, 14 yr old boy Hirsch in Monroe NY Friday & 19 yr old Landau in B’klyn Thursday. All the recent stories are surly a wake up calls for us from Hashem.

    It’s barely a week from Purim, but it feels as if we were in the 9 days. On Thursday evening a Bucher passed out into cardiac arrest at a wedding in the Continental Hall, on Friday another Bucher suddenly passed away at home in Kiryas Yoel after seizing in the shower, and now this tragic accident…

    It’s a terrible tragedy beyond words but when an accident like this occurs I think it should be understood that Hashem is punishing the entire Klal Yisroel of course we are all saddened when we hear such news and it seem to be a Gzeira (decree) on the entire klal Yisroel.

    So the million Dollar question is: what are WE going to do about it? Are we going to continue with business as usual?? Or are we ALL going to get together and show Hashem that we are changing our ways to get closer to Hashem by perfecting our Mitzvos.

    I’m not looking to criticize but there is much room for improvement, in many areas like: our Davening, not talking in Shull, being kind one to another, our Tznius desires much improvement, Loshon Hora, giving more Tzedokah, dealing in business honestly, learning more Torah, watching our eyes especially on the Internet, etc.

  9. To the tznius tippish:

    Are you out of your mind?!
    Pick on tzniyus now?!
    what about talking during davening?!
    or the lashon hora?
    maybe it’s excessive luxuries?
    who knows?

  10. Baruch Dayan Haemes. Its so, so sad.
    I wonder how much longer Klal Yisroel can go on like this.
    May the family find comfort and may we share in the coming of Mashiach iyH very, very soon.

    Umuchuh Hashem Dimuh Mayal Kul Punim.

  11. The Ramchal says: (these are not his exact words) No one except for a Gadol Hador, A very learned person has a right to give advice on why a tragedy happened or what we need to do to avoid anymore tragedies as such.
    Yes! I add, you should do whatever you can do to become a better person all the time but please let’s have compassion for the boys and their families.

  12. bde–we obviuoly do not know the reasons for these horrible events.if you wish to be misaken something in your life please do.however we do not need everyone in the whole computer world casting aspertions on the holy calal yisroel

  13. The Gemora says that the very first question that you will be asked in Shomayim is whether you were honest in business. Not did you keep Shabbos, not did you eat only kosher, not even if you fasted on Yom Kippur. Why do you always pick on the shorcomings of the woman? Could it be it’s because of our lack of honesty in business? Maybe we men talk during davening? Stop blaming Tznius and stop blaming the women for our Tzoras. It’s everybody’s responsibility and everyone’s fault.

  14. The greatest thing you can do now for the yoing couple who passed away is to do a mitzvah in the memory

    1. give some tzedakah
    2. learn a mishna
    3. say a perek of thillem

    etc etc

  15. The Chofetz Chaim (Chofetz Chaim Al Hatorah pages 322-324) said that many of the tzarus which happened in his day were due to wide-spread laxity regarding hilchos tznius.

  16. As the couple turned left onto Kent Avenue, a BMW smashed into them. A witness told WCBS 880?s Monica Miller that the BMW was speeding at the time.

    The car then spun onto the other side of the road.

    “The woman was thrown out of the car. The driver was OK, the airbags saved him, minor scratches. On impact, the husband was killed immediately,” community leader Isaac Abraham told Miller.

    The expectant mother landed under a tractor-trailer, according to police.

    The driver of the livery cab called 911.

    Witnesses said the impact sounded like a bomb went off.

    “It’s just unbelievable knowing that this child will now be raised without parents,” Abraham told Miller. ”The impact will be from the schools to the shuls, to friends and neighbors. And the outreach will be tremendous.”

    The baby will be cared for by his grandparents, Miller reported.

    “Children go to the grave of their parents, parents don’t go to funerals of children. And here we’re going to have two sets of parents going,” Abraham said.

    According to police, the driver of the BMW fled on foot.

    Police told 1010 WINS that a man and woman were seen fleeing the scene and that the man was behind the wheel.

  17. Dear Hershel,

    Tznius is not only directed at our women. Tznius is directed to all of the Klal, men and women alike, men also have to keep Tznius as stated in Shulchan Aruch, how men should dress under the blanket, not to walk in shorts, yes! women are more viewed as models so they have to be more careful how they dress, but men are not excluded.

    As far as talking in Shull the Tosfos Yom Tov already said the the Tatch Ve Tat massacre occurred because people where talking during Davening in Shull.

    May Hashem give us the power to keep our mouth shut during Davening.

  18. What a horrible tragedy! The tzaar that this family is going through is unfathomable and without special koach given by Hashem in that future, for which we must daven, I don’t see how it’s humanly possible for them to emerge whole. BUT..
    Why must people find specific reasons for tragedies? Yes, we know there is a reason, as it was decreed by Hashem, but why isn’t that knowledge enough? Why must we blame it on specific things? It could be tznius, it could be chilul shabbos, it could be lashon hara, it could be yissurim shel ahava or a multitude of other reasons. Is the need simply because we cannot accept that Hashem did something that we cannot understand? Is it that unless we can place a reason in our back pocket, we cannot continue with our emunah unscathed? Or I am being too cynical and there is a better reason? I just find the reasons given as insensitive as if this an opportunity for their agenda or they must strengthen their own emunah instead of just focusing on the tragedy. Then again, I just did that.

  19. “Why must people find specific reasons for tragedies? Yes, we know there is a reason, as it was decreed by Hashem, but why isn’t that knowledge enough? Why must we blame it on specific things?” Tznius etc.

    The reason that we have to find a reason is because Hashem is begging us for something and if we find the reason and improve on it then we won’t have to have more Tzoros and if we don’t improve Chas VeSholom who knows?

    So all the above posts where trying to do is to help us avoid more tragedies from happening to us.

  20. “The woman was thrown out of the car. The driver was OK, the airbags saved him, minor scratches. On impact, the husband was killed immediately,”

    A SEAT BELT!?? People wearing a seat belt are virtually never thrown out of a car in an accident.

  21. “Why must people find specific reasons for tragedies? Yes, we know there is a reason, as it was decreed by Hashem, but why isn’t that knowledge enough? Why must we blame it on specific things?” Tznius etc.

    The reason that we have to find a reason is because Hashem is begging us for something and if we find the reason and improve on it then we won’t have to have more Tzoros and if we don’t improve Chas VeSholom who knows?

    So all the above posts where trying to do is to help us avoid more tragedies from happening to us.

  22. dear readers nobody asked you for divrei nvius you re no yirmiah yeshaya yechezkel vechulei. nor did anyone ask you to give a hesped in yesterdays parsha Moshe asked Hashem hodieni es dracheicha why tzadik vera lo etc …and the rambam says he got no answer hanistaros llashem elokeinu this is atime to say divrei nechama and leave tzidduk hadin to the aveilim Hamakom yenachem eschem btoch aveilei tzion virushalayim B”DH

  23. Perhaps 1 can suggest saying the famous tefillah of the “Noam Elimelech” which is found in most Siddurim and is located before davening.

    As today, 21 Adar, is his yartzeit, perhaps he will request Rachamim for us before the Throne of Glory.

  24. 2 dead
    27 reasons already posted

    OMG!!! How about we all look in the mirror and worry about what we can do better ourselves and save the mussar for the balei mussar to give.

    To the dear families reading these comments: Please know that all of klal yisroel is shocked by your unimaginable tragedy. We will daven for you and become better yidden in the zchus of the heiliga neshomos lost in this tragedy.

    Please focus on the comments of those who feel pain and are so sad and ignore those who posses the ability to understand Hashem’s ways so well.

  25. TZNIUS IS OUR PRIDE AND GLORY!

    The Torah states:

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    Holy You Should Be!
    By wearing immodest clothing we distance the Shechina (Divine Presence) from us.
    As the Torah states:

    ??? ???? ?? ???? ??? ??? ??????
    Immodesty should not be seen amongst you!
    Or Hashem will withdraw his presence from you!
    When the Shechina departs, we are stripped of our protection ?”?
    Maybe this is why so many tzoros, illness, crushing poverty and unbearable tragedies, have befallen us.

    In the words of the Holy Chofetz Chaim tzl in a famous letter:
    “A huge fire has broken out in many places through the despicable styles which the power of uncleanliness has unleashed”……….
    THIS IS WHY BLESSINGS AND PROSPERITY HAVE LEFT US…….
    To a large degree this despicable style negates the statement of the Torah:
    “Your camp should be holy and there should not be found therein erveh”
    Tight-fitting, short, flashy clothing, low cut necklines, long extravagant sheitels, etc. are contrary to Tznius standards,
    Besides being the cause of other people’s sins.

    Dear Sisters!
    Let us wear clothes that are befitting for Jewish Daughters. This will cause the Shechina to reside in our midst. This will bring many blessings upon ourselves, and ultimately bring the Geulah Sheleima ??”?

    ????? ???? ??????? ?????? ?????! The key to our salvation is in your hands!

  26. BDE – A horrible tragedy. May their families be comforted among the mourners of Tzion & Yerushalayim.

    We are told that the world will be in chaos, all part of chevlei Moshiach. We are living right in the midst of these harsh times. We need all to learn from this and know that derech eretz kodmah l’Torah and our behavior in shul must be better and many of the other things posted here.

    It seems that those that hit them head on might have been drunk. Hopefully, they catch them very soon.

    May Hashem watch over His kinderlach and send Moshiach ASAP.

  27. We don’t have Neviim, therefore we don’t have a right to say or even guess why these tragedies happen; Why not everyone look within themselves, & stop finger pointing….
    An unimaginable tragedy…al eileh ani bochia….BDE

  28. The previous Bobover Rebbe Hrav Reb Shloime ZT”L allways used to say. ? ????? ?????? ?????? ??? ??? ???? ?? ??? ????? ?? ???.
    No need to point fingers.
    Everyone knows deep down what they need to do Thesuvah.

  29. BS”D

    Off course I’m in no position to say the reasons why this happened, but I can say what I have seen happen in the last 3 weeks
    1) A bet din went to a South American community to “convert” people, this people ware not ready to become Jews but they ware ready to pay a lot of money to get converted. after the ceremony the “rabonim” preform siddur kidushim without shem u malchus..so as to consider the ceremony invalid so that in the future…no mozerim will be possible….Incredible but true.

    2)in a famous Rabbes wedding ceremony half of the family was missing because of machlokes

    3)700 kids are off the derech just in monsey alone many unable to go to a yeshiva because it requires MONEY to help them!
    4)Botei dinim play smarter than the other in a constant battle for power.
    5)For many Yidishkait has become a lifestyle instead of a way to live. Today you can even be “chasidish” without even having to keep Judaism. Just walk the walk and talk the talk….
    6)As Pesach approaches many wonder how can they pay for the expenses…many take advantage of our religious needs to strangle us with unfair prices.
    7) In Israel, frum people are being forced to take arms…..Hashem yirachem the consequences of taking away our spiritual innocence.
    8)As we become more and more Americanized..we also develop a Goishe kop! we will talk about this tragedy and forget about it by tomorrow afternoon…..Hashem Yirachem!!!

    There is no doubt we are in a historical period in Judaism….. but are we living up to what is expected of us?

    Maybe the answer to our many questions are to close to us to think about it!

  30. The horror of this event is beyond words. Why did this happen? Is the question each needs to ask underlying one’s reciting Tehilim.

    Looking at some of the comments it is clear that each should examine oneself and find something one can do better for this couple’s merit and for their son.

  31. Heart wrenching. May the families find comfort and may they know no more tzaar.
    To all those trying to figure out the exact reason, you are not G-D’s prophet. He never asked you to relay the reason why he sent this tragedy. Everyone has weaknesses in every community. One community may have a problem with tzenius, the other with machlokes and the other with a lack of kovoid Hatorah. I think every community should improve what they feel they need improvemnt with and that will make Hashem happy. Lets do teshuva all across the board and dont pick one issue. Lets show love and ahvas yisrael and work on our midois and rectify ALL our ways. Thats the bottom line

  32. ??? ?????? ????? ????????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ???? ????? ????????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??? ????? ??????? ???? ????? ?????,

    ??? ?????? ????? ????????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ???? ????? ????????? ??????? ??????? ????????

    ??? ????? ??????? ???? ????? ?????, ?? ??? ???? ??”? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?? ?? ??? ?????? ????? ???, ???? ??? ????? ???? ?????, ????? ??????? ???? ???”? ?? ????? ??? ?????: “???????”, ?? ???? ??? ?????, ??? ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????, ????”? ???? ????? ??? ?? ???????? ???????? – ???? ????? ?? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ??????, ??????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ??? ??? ????, ?????? ?? ???? ???? ????, ????? ????? ?????? ?????, ????? ????? ?????? ?? ??? ?????? – ????? ???? ????,

    ????? ?????, ??”?, ??? ??????, ????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ??”?,

    ??”? ?????, ???”? ????”? ?? ????

  33. Yocheved you said it the best!!! I love your post! TZNIUS IS OUR PRIDE AND GLORY! and if we have Tznius we have Schinah!!!

    Thank You Yocheved for you beautiful post!

  34. What a tragedy. BDE. Stop focusing on Tznius. How about focus on mitzvos ben adam lachavero. Being nice to all Bnei Yisrael. If everyone would be nice and judge everyone l’kaf zechus. The world would be a nicer place.

  35. NEBACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Baruch Dayan Ha’Emes!!!
    the poor baby, his birthday is both of his parents’ yahrtzeits! he’ll never b abl 2 have a proper bar mitzvah! my heart goes out 2 him and the rest of the families.

    r we supposed 2 b saying tehillim 4 the baby & if yes if anyone knows wether the mother had another name or something can u pls. post the details? tnyvm.

    and 2 the family members: “hamakom yenachem eschem b’soch sha’ar aveilei tzion ve’yerushalayim”
    may the baby have a complete & speedy recovery & may u b zoche 2 much yiddishe nachas from him I”YH!

  36. To those of you with the stupid remarks please stop. This is not the time to blame the tragic death of the innocents. Why don’t you instead get off line and say a few kapitel Tehillim?

  37. #8…Moishele
    I’ve seen you write before, although I’m not sure. Could you please tell us who you are,give us your full name so we know that what you say means anything. Of course, we need to make many “adjustments” in our overall behaviors and such…but with such a strong message coming from you…could we at least know who it is amongst us that has such insight,such clarity. Because,if it is truly so, I’m sure you would not mind if we knew who you are.
    I’m not trying to be cynical at all…I’ve seen you write before, haven’t I? And your message is real strong…but I would like to know more about you,having all this knowledge, so we understand better.
    Please share with us….

  38. Yocheved:
    Tznius IS our pride and glory, but must you go from website to website with your obsession? Are you privy to some info we don’t know about, that this tragedy is because of such and such? Is that the only thing we need to correct, the only fault in our midst?
    For all those people who are obsessed with individual things, why don’t you take a good look at yourself and see why this issue so bothers you. I suspect you may find the right answer if you looked deep enough and maybe be honest with yourself.
    Hard to elaborate on this…either you get it or you don’t. I don’t expect you to.

  39. Hashem sends us tragedies one after the other to remind us to do teshuva and we take apon ourselves that iyh well do teshuva but what we need to do is action!!really do teshuva make yourself a big reminder to correct your sins by holding yourself back. And then Hashem won’t have to send us any more signs..he’ll send us moshiach iyh ????? ?????? ???!!

  40. I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW ALL YOU PEOPLE CAN DECIDE WHY THIS OR ANY OTHER TRAGEDY HAPPENS

    A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WERE BUSES BLOWING UP IN ERETZ YISROEL, REB ELYOSHIV ZTL WAS ASKED WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE MISCHAZEK, AND HE SAID EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT HE DOES WRONG AND WHAT HE COULD AND SHOULD DO BETTER, AND THAT IS WHAT KLAL YISROEL NEEDS,SO I DON’T KNOW HOW SOME PEOPLE HERE CAN BE SURE WHAT IS NEEDED
    LETS ALL BE MISCHAZEK IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES IN WHAT WE CAN AND THEN WE WILL FOR SURE HAVE A TIKUN GADOL

    AMEN

  41. This is not Yocheved answering your question, but someone else who cares for the truth.

    You say “Tznius IS our pride and glory, but must you go from website to website with your obsession?”

    Well: I don’t know where you where raised and I am not Judging you in any way, but in order to shed some light on the Tznius issue I will say the following if you will so kindly allow me to, not pointing it in your direction.

    Tznius is a sore subject to most of us,(for me too) the Gra”h (the Vilna Goan) writes that the same way that men are protected by learning Torah, women are protected by their Tznius, this has nothing to do with Yocheved (post # 45) this has to do with what it says in our Torah: that when we lack Tznius Hashem removes him self from us c”v and then we are all in great danger as we have seen what happened to us with the Gloubers who where holy Neshomos that suffered for the rest of us. Yocheved already quoted, suggesting that Tznius needs improvement it’s like saying don’t stop breathing if want to stay alive, unfortunately we all know that Tznius desires much improvement in many communities world wide. “Tznius is Hashem’s pride and glory”

    As far as people pretending to be Neviam and suggesting all sort of Mitzvos that we have to improve on, its OK to do so, because Hashem didn’t bring this kind of tragedy up on us so that we can keep on living our lives as we have been till now, Hashem is crying out loud SCREAMING at us saying “I have taken away from you a special holy pure clean couple who where a Korbon Tzibur in order to wake up the rest of the Klall” everyone is always welcome to share their thoughts ideas and feelings in order to make sure that all of us are starting to wake up and practicing the Mitzvos in a better way that we have been conforming till now.

    However Tznius is always on the top priority of the list, that desires much improvement! BTW the Mitzvah of Tznius is for men and women alike, There has never been a time in Jewish history that any Leader i.e. a Rav, Godol, Mekubal, Chacham or Rebbeh suggesting to stop improving our Tznius, I know that it’s a sore subject to most of us (4 ME TOO) yes it is very difficult because we all want to look good, but looking good is for inside of our homes not when we go outside.

    I was personally very moved by Yocheved’s post and spent much time going through my wardrobe putting much of what I found to be inappropriate according to Halocha in the garbage as a Zechus for the Gloubers Z”L.

    Tznius is not an obsession Tznius is the way Hashem expects us to dress think and live, i.e. if a Bas Yisroel is walking down the street dressed Tznius and is still talking loud, or making noise with her heals-shoes, attracting attention from men in any way, she is not fully complying with the laws of Tznius.

    May Hashem help us and we should be Zocha to: have a Korbon Pesach this year joined by Nachman and Raizy Glauber and baby- ????? ???? ???????

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  42. #62
    It’s all well and right, however, my point was that this is not the time and place..Leave the mussar for later.
    Just show your compassion and empathy and she doesn’t have to go from website to website to lecture us on Tznius. We all know we are lacking, now we need ahavas habrios –love and compassion…that’s it..case closed.
    May we be zoicha to the Geula Bimheira..with all our weaknesses, may Hashem take us out of this Golus…fast!

  43. again you missed the point. When else should one post comments pertaining to improving our Mitzvos? if not now? The Time Is Now! to wake up and improve.

  44. So sorry but…Again you missed the point.

    Do you really think that Moshiach is going to come in the near future just because we show our compassion and empathy? Wishful thinking, the fact is: Moshiach will only come if we improve our Mitzvos.

    There is nothing wrong if Yocheved inspired thousands to improve their Tznius, even if she posted it on every single website in the world.
    May we all be Zocha to see the light shine up on us from heaven.

  45. So sorry but…Again you missed the point.

    Do you really think that Moshiach is going to come in the near future just because we show our compassion and empathy? Wishful thinking, the fact is: Moshiach will only come if we improve our Mitzvos.

    There is nothing wrong if Yocheved inspired thousands to improve their Tznius, even if she posted it on every single website in the world.

    May we all be Zocha to see the light shine up on us from heaven.

  46. So sorry but…Once Again you missed the point.

    Do you really think that Moshiach is going to come in the near future just because we show our compassion and empathy? Wishful thinking, the fact is: Moshiach will only come if we improve our Mitzvos.

    There is nothing wrong if Yocheved inspired thousands to improve their Tznius, even if she posted it on every single website in the world.

    May we all be Zocha to see the light shine up on us from heaven.

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