“Vesein Tal Umatar” Begins in Chutz La’aretz


siddurAt Maariv tonight, December 4th, residents of chutz la’aretz begin to say Vesein Tal Umatar during the Shemonah Esrei in the bracha of Boreich Aleinu. Residents of Eretz Yisroel already began saying Vesein Tal Umatar on the 7th of Cheshvan.

If one became aware after completing the bracha of Mevareich Hashanim that one omitted Vesein Tal Umatar, one should wait to insert it right before “Ki atah shomeiah” in Shema Koleinu.

If one has already completed the bracha of Shomeiah Tefillah, one may insert Vesein Tal Umatar before saying Retzei. If one has already started Retzei, one must return to the bracha of Boreich Aleinu, which is the proper place for Vesein Tal Umatar. If one already completed the Shemonah Esrei and stepped backward, one must repeat the entire Shemonah Esrei (Shulchan Aruch with Mishna Berurah 117:5. See also Bi’ur Halacha).

(It is advisable to repeat 101 times [and at the very least 90 times] “Ve’es kol minei sevu’asah letovah vesein tal umatar” so as to make the inclusion of Vesein Tal Umatar habitual and fluent, thus eliminating any future doubt as to whether one included Vesein Tal Umatar in Shemonah Esrei or not.

Please feel free to print this out and hang it up or distribute it in shuls and yeshivos.

{Noam Amdurski-Matzav.com Newscenter}


  1. Because the Tekufa was at 3:00 PM and the din is that we need 60 days me’as l’es. Before repeating Shmonah Esrei, if you forgot to say it, speak to your Rov. You may not need to, depending on what time you Daven

  2. Can someone please explain why here in chutz lo’oretz we begin saying vsein tal umotor according to the date of dec 4th,when no other yiddisher “change” is fixed to a non jewish date ?


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