Video: Asarah B’teves, the Ninth of Teves, and the Pope

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shloime-pollackThe following shiur was delivered by Rabbi Shloime Pollak, Daf Yomi maggid shiur at the Sterling Forest Beis Medrash inLakewood.

The first Slichah that we say on the fast day of Asarah B’teves is…..
  “אזכרה מצוק אשר קראני, “בשלוש” מכות בחודש זה הכאני.”
The “three” tragedies, are elaborated in the Slichah…. and the source of two of them is from a Megilas Taanis that is quoted in the Shulchan Aruch Arach Chaim (580).
In understanding the Shulchan Aruch, it becomes clear, that in fact there are FOUR tragedies…and one is missing…
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5 COMMENTS

  1. The Hagahos Baruch Ta’am (Frankel) (O.Ch.580) writes, he saw a Ksav Yad

    that “on the 9th of Teves, Shimon Hakalfus died. He helped the

    Yidden when they had big Tzaros, therefore Chazal established the

    day he died as a fast day”.

    Shimon Hakalfusi also known as Shimon Kaifa and better known

    as Peter the Apostale. (first pope)

    There is a Machlokes going back to the Rishonim, If Peter was

    one of ours, planted in Rome as a secret agent,

    to save the Yidden. Some even claim he authored “Nishmas”

    נשמת- ואילו פינו – עד הנה- מי ידמה – שוכן עד

    and also the Seder of Avoda said on Yom Kippur.

    The Dikdukei Sofrim quotes a Girsa in Rashi,

    that both Paul & Peter led the Christians, only to save

    the Yidden from persecution. They for themselves were

    faithful Yidden.

    In the first print of the Sefer Chasidim #191, he calls

    Shimon Kaifa a Tzadik. This Siman was removed hence in many

    prints Siman #191 is missing. After #190 comes #192.

    There are newer editions where it was reinstated.

    The Machzor Vitri (Talmid of Rashi) strongly opposes

    this opinion He calls him אותו נבל שמעון פטר חמור.

    He also writes “whoever claims that Nishmas was

    authored by Peter will need to bring a חטאת שמינה (fat Chatos)

    when the Bais Hamikdosh will be rebuilt”. Torasaba

    The Hagahos Baruch Ta’am (Frankel) (O.Ch.580) writes, he saw a Ksav Yad

    that “on the 9th of Teves, Shimon Hakalfus died. He helped the

    Yidden when they had big Tzaros, therefore Chazal established the

    day he died as a fast day”.

    Shimon Hakalfusi also known as Shimon Kaifa and better known

    as Peter the Apostale. (first pope)

    There is a Machlokes going back to the Rishonim, If Peter was

    one of ours, planted in Rome as a secret agent,

    to save the Yidden. Some even claim he authored “Nishmas”

    נשמת- ואילו פינו – עד הנה- מי ידמה – שוכן עד

    and also the Seder of Avoda said on Yom Kippur.

    The Dikdukei Sofrim quotes a Girsa in Rashi,

    that both Paul & Peter led the Christians, only to save

    the Yidden from persecution. They for themselves were

    faithful Yidden.

    In the first print of the Sefer Chasidim #191, he calls

    Shimon Kaifa a Tzadik. This Siman was removed hence in many

    prints Siman #191 is missing. After #190 comes #192.

    There are newer editions where it was reinstated.

    The Machzor Vitri (Talmid of Rashi) strongly opposes

    this opinion He calls him אותו נבל שמעון פטר חמור.

    He also writes “whoever claims that Nishmas was

    authored by Peter will need to bring a חטאת שמינה (fat Chatos)

    when the Bais Hamikdosh will be rebuilt”.

  2. The Hagahos Baruch Ta’am (Frankel) (O.Ch.580) writes, he saw a Ksav Yad

    that “on the 9th of Teves, Shimon Hakalfus died. He helped the

    Yidden when they had big Tzaros, therefore Chazal established the

    day he died as a fast day”.

    Shimon Hakalfusi also known as Shimon Kaifa and better known

    as Peter the Apostale. (first pope)

    There is a Machlokes going back to the Rishonim, If Peter was

    one of ours, planted in Rome as a secret agent,

    to save the Yidden. Some even claim he authored “Nishmas”

    נשמת- ואילו פינו – עד הנה- מי ידמה – שוכן עד

    and also the Seder of Avoda said on Yom Kippur.

    The Dikdukei Sofrim quotes a Girsa in Rashi,

    that both Paul & Peter led the Christians, only to save

    the Yidden from persecution. They for themselves were

    faithful Yidden.

    In the first print of the Sefer Chasidim #191, he calls

    Shimon Kaifa a Tzadik. This Siman was removed hence in many

    prints Siman #191 is missing. After #190 comes #192.

    There are newer editions where it was reinstated.

    The Machzor Vitri (Talmid of Rashi) strongly opposes

    this opinion He calls him אותו נבל שמעון פטר חמור.

    He also writes “whoever claims that Nishmas was

    authored by Peter will need to bring a חטאת שמינה (fat Chatos)

    when the Bais Hamikdosh will be rebuilt”.

  3. The Hagahos Baruch Ta’am (Frankel) (O.Ch.580) writes, he saw a Ksav Yad

    that “on the 9th of Teves, Shimon Hakalfus died. He helped the

    Yidden when they had big Tzaros, therefore Chazal established the

    day he died as a fast day”.

    Shimon Hakalfusi also known as Shimon Kaifa and better known

    as Peter the Apostale. (first pope)

    There is a Machlokes going back to the Rishonim, If Peter was

    one of ours, planted in Rome as a secret agent,

    to save the Yidden. Some even claim he authored “Nishmas”

    נשמת- ואילו פינו – עד הנה- מי ידמה – שוכן עד

    and also the Seder of Avoda said on Yom Kippur.

    The Dikdukei Sofrim quotes a Girsa in Rashi,

    that both Paul & Peter led the Christians, only to save

    the Yidden from persecution. They for themselves were

    faithful Yidden.

    In the first print of the Sefer Chasidim #191, he calls

    Shimon Kaifa a Tzadik. This Siman was removed hence in many

    prints Siman #191 is missing. After #190 comes #192.

    There are newer editions where it was reinstated.

    The Machzor Vitri (Talmid of Rashi) strongly opposes

    this opinion He calls him אותו נבל שמעון פטר חמור.

    He also writes “whoever claims that Nishmas was

    authored by Peter will need to bring a חטאת שמינה (fat Chatos)

    when the Bais Hamikdosh will be rebuilt”.Torasaba

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