Why Agri Employees Who Lied About Their Ages Are Cooperating With Government


agriFrom a report in the Des Moines Register: Alfredo Marroquin Argueta was sitting on the witness stand, his hands trembling, when he saw an old picture of himself and realized how much weight he had lost in two years on a Guatemalan farmer’s diet. The weight loss, caused by nutritional deficiency, was one of the first things the Rev. Paul Ouderkirk noticed when a group from Guatemala arrived at St. Bridget’s Catholic Church in Postville weeks before the Guatemalans were scheduled to testify in the child-labor trial of Sholom Rubashkin, a former Agriprocessors executive.To receive a U-visa, a person must have suffered abuse….

Alfredo Marroquin Argueta, 19, says returning to Iowa to testify in a child labor trial is an opportunity for him and seven other Guatemalans to help their families.”It was very visible in their faces and arms,” Ouderkirk said.

Argueta, 19, is one of eight former child laborers flown in from Guatemala by Iowa prosecutors to testify.

Several of the young men said in interviews last week in Postville that they hope to stay in the United States long enough to pay off their debts and save their family’s land from “coyotes” – guides who help immigrants cross illegally into the United States.

They admitted feeling intense anxiety at being whisked away from their rural mountainside villages to an American courtroom to be questioned in English by lawyers.

They also shared their ultimate dream: returning home with enough cash to build modest one-story, two-bedroom homes for their families.

While in the United States, the Guatemalans are spending their time playing soccer and going to English classes. They are not allowed to work. During the trial, they are staying with friends and family still in Postville.

To pay off their debts to the coyotes and build their homes, the Guatemalans must obtain a U-visa.

The visas – which are awarded only to victims of abuse who can aid authorities in the investigation or prosecution of a crime – allow recipients to work legally in the United States for four years and apply for permanent-resident status.

Sonia Parras Konrad, a Des Moines immigration lawyer who has won dozens of the visas for other former Agriprocessors workers, said she has started the application process for the group of witnesses.

The young witnesses said they received unexpected phone calls from Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation agents in April.

The agents, whom they remember only by their first names, wanted to meet. They said their stay in the United States would last a maximum of 90 days.

The Guatemalans had no way to verify the Americans’ story. It was a leap of faith made worthwhile by the promise to return to the United States, they said.

One of the young men, Alvaro David Ajin Garcia, has testified through an interpreter that he accompanied the agent solely because “they were honest people, and you could feel they were being honest.”

The young men couldn’t help but imagine the possibilities. Argueta and his former co-workers said their spirits lifted. Their families smiled and hugged.

On the plane, Argueta kept thinking of how a five-hour flight separates his meager existence in Guatemala and his relatively luxurious life in Iowa. Memories of Postville and a 2008 immigration raid he had tried to forget flooded back.

“In our country, when someone leaves for the United States, there’s a saying, ‘He’s gone to chase his dreams,’ ” Argueta said.

Two years ago, federal agents arrested hundreds of workers at the plant in Postville in what was then the largest U.S. immigration raid.

They detained one of Argueta’s childhood friends, Agustin Porras, who sums up life in Guatemala in one sentence.

“There’s nothing in Guatemala, that’s what there is,” he said.

The young men said they miss their families and girlfriends. Everything else, they said, they gladly left behind.

Following their deportations, they spent nearly two years tilling fields with hoes on hilly mountainsides. They receive about 40 quetzales, or about $5, for one day of backbreaking labor.

It’s enough to buy the staples of a peasant’s diet – beans, tortillas, bread and coffee. But the wages rarely afford more nutritious foods such as fruits, vegetables and meats.

When asked to describe their homes in Guatemala, the young men list amenities they lack: carpeting, microwaves, refrigerators and washing machines.

Large debts, often at least $5,000 per person, weigh down their families. It is the price they paid a coyote to help them enter the United States.

With the $5 Porras earns daily to help feed his family, he makes monthly payments on the debt. If he misses too many payments, “they’ll take away the land where my family lives.”

During the child labor trial’s first week, an assistant Iowa attorney general placed a picture on the courtroom’s overhead projector of Argueta inside Agriprocessors. It was taken two years ago by federal immigration agents shortly after his arrest.

The prosecutor asked Argueta, dressed in his finest collared shirt and his hair neatly combed, “Have you lost weight in the last two years?”

The Guatemalan field laborer’s hands trembled. He had never been in a courtroom before, and didn’t speak the language.

Argueta took one look at his rounded 17-year-old face and nodded.

When asked why, Argueta said through an interpreter, “Because in Guatemala, there’s not enough work or money to buy the food that you need.”

{Des Moines Register/Noam Amdurski-Matzav.com Newscenter}


  1. The U.S. government are the biggest liars that ever existed in the face of this earth. Sure, it will be worth for these immigrants to lie if they can get U visas. Shame on this government. One liar is bigger than the next.
    May HKBH spare R’ Sholom from these shakranim.

  2. His defense attorneys are presenting a well-prepared case. Whether or not I think he is guilty or innocent doesn’t matter. It’s all about the Jury, and I think they will acquit.

    Let’s not go nuts with hatred. Just pray for the results you want.

  3. “LetÂ’s not go nuts with hatred.”

    Why shouldn’t Bubby go nuts? An innocent man is being framed! This is a life were talking about for heaven’s sake!

  4. She already said that the federal judge and prosecutor should die. Bubby seems to go over the line. You want to be outraged? Be outraged. But don’t accuse everybody else in the case of being evil. This isn’t some kind of plot. It’s a trial. Hashem knows the truth and will see to it that he gets what is right. It’s time to have some trust.

  5. Comment to Bubby you sound like a member of a militia group that goes around bashing the U.S. govt. not like a religious person. If you are so anti-U.S. go and live somewhere else. We should give thanks to our malchus shel chesed and not be so anti-govt.My father who was a holocoust survivor always taught me to love this country for all the freedom we have and not to take it for granted which you seem to be doing.

  6. Well said, #5. I’m also the child of survivors, and they taught me the same thing. Not only should we be grateful that we’re living in this wonderful country, we should be grateful that we don’t have to work at jobs like these jobs that are being discussed. We’re able to be teachers or doctors or lawyers or whatever we want.

    Whether or not anybody is happy with this trial, we should thank G-d for this wonderful system.

  7. I too, am a holocaust survivor, and I feel black clouds looming overhead, watching this trial take place. I am around a little longer than you young ones who seem to know it all.

    By the way to bb, when did I say that?? Please don’t make up stories about me.

    To Shani 109; I know better than you that it is a malchus shel chesed, but in the chesed there is still rishus, and that is what you are seeing here.

  8. Comment to Bubby, do you know the white militia groups say the same thing you are saying that you cant trust the govt. they are a bunch of liars. By the way I am not a young one I am Bh a Bubby too.

  9. It was once a malchus shel chesed. That is becoming less the case now. I am not saying that only because of this one instance, which may really be rish’us.

    Germany was once considered whatever it was considered until ….

  10. Bubby, I suggest you read posts #2 &#3 again. If you don’t follow, I’ll just discount your opnion next time I see one.

  11. It is true that this is a malchus shel chessed. However, even a malchus shel chessed can change its colors, however gradually. Anyone who doesn’t believe can just take a look at our history to figure that out.

    I am the oldest grandchild of Holocaust survivors, and what I learned from my grandparents is this: We should be very grateful to the United States for the religious and social freedom it provides us, the U.S. is truly a malchus shel chessed and a wonderful place –

    in the meantime.

    Although I am not even insinuating that anything like what happened in Europe is going to happen here, I am saying that we should not be fools. It is not for naught that so much of the discussion around the Rubashkin trial brings up associations from the Holocaust years.

  12. I’m sorry you went through the holocaust. Please share with us the way that this situation compares with your experiences then. With all due respect, you can’t possibly compare concentration camp with this trial in any way, or even the events leading up to going to concentration camp. I’m from a family of Holocaust Survivors, and I can’t find anything similar.