Dr. Roberts: Don’t Bring Un-Immunized People to My Carnival

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This Chol Hamoed, as in years past, Kollel Ner Avrohom and Dr. Casriel Roberts will sponsor a Pesach carnival for the Lakewood, NJ, community. The event will be held on Wednesday, April 4th, at the Lakewood Cheder’s Vassar Avenue campus. Details of the event will be provided as the date draws near.

An important note included in the publicity about the event is a statement relased by Dr. Roberts and the organizers: “The event organizers ask that attendees not endanger others by bringing someone who is not immunized.”

There is a small, misguided minority of people who are against immunizing. This statement has been made to ensure that those who do not vaccinate do not put other people in danger.

{Matzav.com}

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    • The ignorant ones are those who trusts Big Pharma and Fake News blindly. In California alone there was a 20% escalation of autism in the last 15 years which they claim is linked to vaccinations.

      • but keep trusting those vitamin and supplement blogs! which are just in for the bucks to sell you whatever crazy charcoal vitamin supplement drink of the week!

  1. Thank you Dr. Roberts for having the courage to take a stance against these feeble- minded people who endanger the rest of us.

  2. Sorry, but it’s the people who still practice irresponsible, symptom-based medicine, not those who practice personalized, evidence-based medicine, who are misinformed. And it’s likely that the mercury and aluminum in the vaccines are going to the brain and causing the “feeble-mindedness.”

  3. Fake Science.He is trying to convince you that a healthy unvaccinated child is a bio hazard. This is simply absurd. As I have written previously the science demonstrates that vaccinated people both children and adults are actually dangerous due to their ability to be asymptomatic carriers despite the immunization.Dr Roberts why are you ignoring the evidence from the 2014 Warfel Study?

    • If I had to guess it’s because your Ilk cherry pick what suits your misguided narrative.

  4. wow! small minority of misguided people. have you actually spoken to anyone from that small minority of misguided people?

    it’s his carnival so he can do what he wants with it. but Mr editor bullying will not convince the small minority of parents who have actually read the vaccine insert, and the list of ingredients in the vaccines, not to mention hours more of research (contrary to popular belief there are hundreds of doctors across the USA that have come out strongly against vaccines, if you are truly interested in the truth you would look them up)

    Will we ever see some true reporting on this topic, like why does the CDC keep block the whistleblower Dr Thompson from testifiying in congress? and why haven’t there been any vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies done ever? I know dr paul offit, poster child for vaccine safety “Says” it’s unethical to not vaccinate children so therefore they can’t do the study – however anyone with one functioning brain cell left (not many people in this highly vaccinated society) can respond and say there are thousands of children across america whose parents refuse vaccination why not study those children??? The answer is right in front of you for those that are actually interest in seeking out the truth.

    For the rest of you promoting the fear mongering or victimized by it … keep talking about the misguided minority. Everyone will have to give a din v’cheshbon one day. for all the additional yiddeshe kinder that are injured by vaccines because the parents read what you publish on your website, saying you didn’t know but listened to what the doctors said will not be a great defense. I wish you all the best.

    • Yep Doc! You don’t need to worry about me either, for I too am not coming! And I will also make sure to tell all of my friends to make sure to not come.

    • Thank You So Very, Very Much Doc for so clearly warning everyone about your sponsored carnival!! Now that you have informed us that it will be packed wall to wall with people who have just had their most updated current immunization shots, we will well know to stay away from it!! For we do not want to, Chas V’Shalom, pick up any of the dangerous disease vaccine residues that all of these many newly vaccinated people are now carrying.

      • “dangerous disease vaccine residues”

        have you ever even stopped to think about if what youre saying makes sense…? like, seriously. think about it. what supposed residue are you even talking about? something in the bloodstream? saliva? something on their skin? even if it were true that there were some sort of residue of the vaccine in those who had been recently vaccinated, how could that possibly affect you at a carnival? are you worried someone is going to bleed on you or something? seriously, stop and think about what youre saying…

        • Quoting your objection: ” . . . . how could that possibly affect you at a carnival? Are you worried someone is going to bleed on you or something?” — You are asking a very excellent question!! For that question is EXACTLY the same objection that we ask back to you!!

          “You” (who vaccinate) heap vile condemnation upon “us” (who do not vaccinate) accusing us of being a super great danger to you. You thus will not allow us to attend your schools, and you thus will not allow us to come to your carnivals. So we ask you, how are we such a super great danger to you??? Are any of us going to bleed on you or something??? Are any of us going to put our hands in our mouth and then with those hands handle your food??? Yes, please explain, how are we a danger to you???

          So you retort to us that since we do not vaccinate, we are (supposedly) going to get all the bad diseases; (even though we are as totally healthy and as UN-sick as ever) when we walk around, we are (supposedly) carrying all the bad germs of all those bad diseases. So when we just breathe in and breath out, the very air around us gets contaminated with those bad germs, and that is a threat to you!

          As that is what you say about us (who, again, are really as totally healthy and as UN-sick as ever and do not show the slightest indication of carrying around any bad germs), KAL V’CHOMER – it is certainly much, much, MUCH more with you!! For as you HAVE taken the vaccinations, you have just shot into yourselves a HUGE amount of the bad germs, along with significant amounts of mercury and aluminum and other preservatives and other toxins that are put in many vaccine serums. So as you are carrying all of THAT around, we are certainly justifiably concerned that some of it might possibly be shredding off of you and be a threat to us!

  5. My beautiful baby boy died at 12 months just four hours following his vaccines. Where is sensitivity for the individuals whose children and parents suffer everyday from vaccine injury and death. It’s real. It exists. We exist. Everyday I live with the loss of my beautiful baby boy. Sadly it’s my own community, the frum community, that’s behind the times when it comes to this very real issue. We receive more support from the secular world. To not believe in vaccine injuryand death is denying fact and science. read VAERS and every vaccine insert its all there. I would do anything to go back in time. I wish I had been informed.

    • Mrs. Sarah: Regarding your son I emphatically say:

      “HASHEM YINAKEM DAMO!!” – “MAY THE LORD AVENGE HIS BLOOD!!”

      Please, what is his full Jewish name and his father’s full Jewish name, and, B’li Neder, I will have him in mind when I say Yizkor next week on Yom Tov.

    • Mrs. Sarah: I cannot begin to even remotely comprehend the infinite pain that you and your husband are experiencing over the callous needless murder of your infant son, A’H, HY’D, along with, very tragically, the callous attitudes of many in our own Frum communities toward this horrific problem.

      We need though, to realize who are the real villains in this picture. One of my senior Rabayim explained to me that the modern medical world, specifically with its administrative and promotional organization, the “American Medical Association” – the “AMA,” HAS LITERALLY DONE A FANTASTICALLY BRILLIANT EXCELLENT JOB of proclaiming to the world — and convincing the world — that THEY, and ONLY THEY, are THE absolute caretakers of health in the world, and that THEY are ALWAYS right, and that THEY are NEVER wrong! With this, they literally, fantastically, etc., etc. further proclaimed & convinced the world that ALL of the earlier healing professions of various natural techniques (e.g. herbs, minerals, nutrients, etc.) are “old fashioned,” “primitive,” and “backwards.” Any physician who utilized such methods was sharply branded as “ignorant,” a “fraud,” a “quack,” and a “snake oil salesman”! He often was removed of his license, thrown in jail, and, in some instances, even murdered.

      So “everyone” — including “everyone” in the Frum communities — saw that the modern medical world was proclaimed and established as THE medical world and that “all” of the doctors who are in existence — the ONLY doctors who are in existence — are those who strictly adhere to the holy, holy, holy dictates of the modern medical religion. As this is what “everyone” — including “everyone” in the Frum communities — have seen, it is understandable that this is what “everyone” — including “everyone” in the Frum communities — is going to follow.

      So “everyone” — including “everyone” in the Frum communities — who have thus followed this modern medical religion cannot be blamed for not realizing the falsities and dangers of it. Instead, the blame goes on the real villains in the picture: the modern medical world’s leaders and promoters who have continually built up this massive matrix of lies and propaganda. And, yes, the blood of your son — and the blood of tens of thousands of people who every year die from vaccines, prescription drugs, dangerous unneeded surgeries, and other modern medical abuses — is on their hands.

    • Mrs. Sarah and your husband: I totally identify with you in your pain, especially as with myself, MY OWN FATHER, A’H, HY’D, was killed by one of the other abuses of modern medicine, that of dangerous inappropriate surgery. Of course, what was his whole medical case is not relevant to this discussion on Matzav; however, BE’H, one detail of the episode I will mention. His General Practitioner Family Doctor, who had closely treated him for many years and thus obviously knew him VERY well, had, for quite a while, adamantly warned that my father should ABSOLUTELY NOT have this operation!

      Boruch Hashem, his admonition did make a big difference, for the procedure was thus put off and almost forgotten about for around a year — during which my father was still alive! However, when critical deterioration of the situation developed, the big medical “specialists” very strongly wanted to do the surgery. The GP though, still adamantly stood by his warning and bluntly predicted that were they to attempt it, my father would die in two seconds on the operating table! The heavy wish of the specialists though held sway, and they thus did the operation.

      Now, my father did not die in actually “two seconds” on the table; HOWEVER, never waking up from the anesthesia, he was Niftar “two days later” in the ICU.

      Of course, I am keenly aware that as horrific as seeing one’s parent killed is, seeing one’s child killed is infinitely more horrific. So, again, I can only IDENTIFY with your pain, but I cannot begin to comprehend it. I can only offer you my fullest condolences and moral support.

  6. vaccines are super dangerous and so is the carnival as it can be a potential terrrost spot be careful stay away

    and if you go make sure to say thank you to ricchhy as thats what he’s waiting forr

  7. Here’s some information for the truly misinformed:

    December 13, 2017Countering False Vaccine Safety Claims

    Vaccines can and do cause injuries, including autism
    By The World Mercury Project Team
    We’re living in an age where parents increasingly report that their typically developing children declined cognitively and physically after receiving vaccines. Despite the sound science supporting these parent claims, government agencies and mainstream media continue issuing the now shopworn mantra that vaccines are “safe and effective” ignoring published research and even common sense that indicate otherwise.
    World Mercury Project has put together a list of the most common misrepresentations in the vaccine safety debate and provided the facts and references that support the reality that vaccines can and do cause injuries including autism and many other adverse health outcomes.
    Claim 1. Vaccines save lives.
    * This statement is debatable. There is a growing body of research that suggests vaccines may cause more injury and death than the diseases they were meant to protect us from.
    * Vaccines can also cause permanent disability and death in individuals who are more susceptible to injury from vaccines or vaccine ingredients. Physicians and vaccine-injured individuals are encouraged to report injuries to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). It’s estimated that only 1% of injuries are ever reported to VAERS, yet payments totaling nearly $4 billion have been made since 1988. That taxpayer-funded payout amount continues to rise at an alarming rate.
    * Despite the trend in medicine to personalize treatments and medications, the current vaccine program is a “one size fits all” policy.

    Claim 2. Vaccines don’t cause autism.
    * The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has paid many vaccine induced autism claims. Even the industry-compromised mainstream media has covered vaccine-induced autism, including Dr. Sanjay Gupta and CNN with the widely-reported Hannah Poling case.
    * The CDC published studies claiming no link between thimerosal and autism are conflicted, fraudulent and manipulated to suppress the autism link. However, they still show that vaccines cause grave neurological injuries such as tics. (See Verstraeten 2003, Barile 2012, Tozzi 2009.)
    * CDC vaccine safety scientist turned whistleblower (and author of several of the CDC autism studies), Dr. William Thompson, claims senior CDC officials asked him and his colleagues to lie about scientific fraud and destruction of evidence in critical vaccine safety research regarding the causative relationship between childhood vaccines and autism.
    * World Mercury Project has collected over 80 studies connecting the dots between the vaccine preservative, thimerosal, and autism. Studies on other vaccine ingredients and links to disease are also accumulating.

    The safety of combining vaccines, which include aborted fetal tissue, mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, animal and human DNA, and more—in infants and young children has not been tested.Claim 3. All vaccines have been rigorously tested and are completely safe.
    This is patently false. The reason Congress exempted vaccine makers from liability in 1986 was BECAUSE vaccines were causing harm. Since the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act went into effect, the federal government program has paid out 3.8 billion dollars in vaccine injuries and death.
    * In 2011, the Supreme Court ruled that vaccines are “unavoidably unsafe.”
    * The current CDC pediatric schedule recommends children receive as many as nine vaccines all at the same office visit. The safety of combining vaccines, which include aborted fetal tissue, mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, animal and human DNA, and more—in infants and young children has not been tested.
    * There are no large-scale studies comparing health outcomes in vaccinated children vs. those who haven’t received vaccines. However, a recent peer-reviewed study found that vaccinated children had an increased risk of autism (4.2 times), ADHD (4.2 times), learning disabilities (5.2 times), eczema (2.9 times) and an astounding 30 times the risk of allergic rhinitis compared to unvaccinated children.
    * In 2016, the Vaccine Injury Adverse Reporting System (VAERS) collected 59,117 reports of adverse events from vaccines, including 432 deaths, 1091 permanent disabilities, 4,132 hospitalizations and 10,284 emergency room visits. According to HHS, the reported events are only 1% of the actual number. Therefore, the U.S is likely experiencing millions of adverse reactions from vaccines per year.

    Claim 4. Vaccinations produce herd immunity and prevent dangerous, even deadly, diseases. Anti-vaxxers are causing epidemics and eroding the public trust.
    * Herd immunity cannot be achieved through vaccination if vaccines aren’t effective. The Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine is just one that isn’t working. Mumps cases in the U.S. have been on the rise in recent years with over 5,000 cases reported in 2016, more than any year in the past decade, and they are occurring in highly vaccinated populations. Recent outbreaks of disease in vaccinated populations are proving that all vaccines are not efficacious. Additionally, immunity from vaccines is usually temporary unlike the lifelong immunity typically produced by experiencing a childhood illness.
    * In 2010, two former Merck virologists filed a federal lawsuit claiming that Merck committed fraud in lying about the efficacy of the mumps component of their MMR vaccine. The suit, now in the hands of a federal judge, charges that Merck was aware of the declining efficacy of the mumps vaccine but still claimed it was 95% effective.
    * As the CDC continues to deny that there is a vaccine safety problem, studies show that the biggest impediment to broad vaccine acceptance and coverage is public mistrust of government regulators.
    * Bernadine Healy, former director of the National Institutes of Health, said that public distrust is growing because of inaction on the part of agencies regarding vaccine safety.
    * The only polio that is diagnosed now in America is the vaccine strain and those cases are compensated in Vaccine Court.
    * Ironically, many of today’s vaccines don’t actually prevent the vaccinated individual from harboring and transmitting the disease in question. This is true of pertussis, diphtheria, and as already noted, polio.
    * The death rate from measles as far back as 1922 was extremely low—4.3 in 100,000. Consider that this was nearly 100 years ago—before electric refrigerators, before washing machines, before antibiotics, and IV hydration, and the advances of modern medicine.
    * Eight years before the measles vaccine was introduced, children went to school, and even to Disneyland, which opened its doors in 1955, and mothers didn’t live in fear of routine illnesses like measles.

    Not only has thimerosal never been completely taken out of vaccines, but much more aluminum was—and continues to be—added, again with no scientific research to support the safety of doing so.Claim 5. Thimerosal (ethyl mercury) was taken out of vaccines in 1999 and autism rates still continued to rise. Also, the ethyl mercury in vaccines is less toxic than methyl mercury.
    * Between 1999 and 2003, thimerosal was being gradually removed from the Hep B, Hib and DTaP vaccines. However, the exposure to thimerosal due to flu shots was simultaneously ramping up. Flu shots were originally recommended for pregnant women in 1997 but, initially, uptake of these shots was low (only 12.4% by 2002). In 2004, the CDC recommended flu shots for all pregnant women in any trimester. By 2012-2013, uptake of flu shots during pregnancy had steadily increased to approximately 50%. So, the children born after 2004 were increasingly likely to have been exposed to thimerosal in utero, and a lot of it.
    * Concurrently, in 2001, the CDC recommended flu vaccines for high-risk infants over six months of age. In January 2003, the CDC recommended routine annual flu shots for all children starting at six months of age. Coverage initially was very low. In the 2002–2003 and 2003–2004 influenza seasons, only 4.4% and 8.4% of children, respectively, were fully vaccinated for flu. In the 2004-2005 flu season, the childhood uptake rate had shot up to 48%. In the years after the phase out of mercury in the Hep B, Hib, and DTaP, children were increasingly being exposed to thimerosal through flu shots. In 2004, over 90% of the flu shot supply was preserved with thimerosal.
    * There is no justification for injecting mercury, a known neurotoxin, into anyone, but definitely not pregnant women and children. The developing fetus is especially vulnerable to mercury exposure because fetal cord blood mercury levels are typically about double the mother’s mercury blood levels. Approximately 36 million flu shots containing 25 mcg. of mercury are in the supply for the 2017-2018 flu season.
    * A 2017 CDC study reviewing data from the 2010-11 and 2011-2012 flu seasons linked spontaneous abortions to flu vaccines, finding that women vaccinated with the inactivated influenza vaccine had 3.7-fold greater odds of spontaneous abortion within 23 days than women not receiving the vaccine. For women who received the H1N1 vaccine in both seasons covered in the study, the odds of spontaneous abortion in the 28 days after receving a flu vaccine was 7.7 times greater. The vast majority of flu vaccines available during the seasons studied were multi-dose formulations containing 25 mcg. of mercury.
    * Meningococcal vaccines may still contain 25mcg of mercury from thimerosal. Using EPA guidelines for mercury exposure, an individual should weigh 550 lbs. to “safely” process this amount of mercury. Of course, this is based on the INGESTION of methyl mercury. No guidelines have been established for INJECTING any form of mercury. Thimerosal is still included in “trace amounts” in other vaccines.
    * Not only has thimerosal never been completely taken out of vaccines, but much more aluminum was—and continues to be—added, again with no scientific research to support the safety of doing so.
    * Despite claims made by vaccine pundits and repeated in the media, ethyl mercury found in vaccines is not safer than methyl mercury found in fish. A recent meta-analysis showed that inorganic mercury has a half-life in the brain of several years. This is concerning since we know infant primates exposed to equal amounts of ethyl mercury compared to methyl mercury were found to have more than double the amount of inorganic mercury deposited into their brain tissue.
    * While it’s true that ethyl mercury clears the blood more quickly than methyl mercury, the organs of toxicity are the brain and kidneys. Ethyl mercury rapidly crosses into the brain where it gets trapped and is not easily excreted. Clearing the blood does not mean that the ethyl mercury has left the body.
    * Curiously, one division of the FDA has labeled thimerosal as not being “Generally Recognized As being Safe and Effective (GRASE), while another branch continues to allow the use of thimerosal in vaccines and over 130 prescription drugs.

    Claim 6. The study by Wakefield claiming a link between the MMR vaccine and autism has been disproven. This study was retracted and the author discredited. Other MMR studies prove no link as well.
    * The Wakefield Lancet paper never claimed that the MMR causes autism. Wakefield presented case histories of 12 children with bowel disease and autistic regression their parents claimed occurred after the MMR shot. Wakefield called for more study. From the conclusion: We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described.
    * Since the paper’s retraction, senior level CDC scientist turned whistleblower Dr. William Thompson said that a 2004 CDC study found an association with the MMR and the onset of autism in African-American boys and in children with no other developmental concerns before the vaccine, a condition they termed “isolated autism.” Thompson submitted thousands of documents to Congressman Bill Posey of Florida in 2014 regarding his claims. Subsequently, Congressman Posey made a statement from the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives saying, in part:

    “Regardless of the subject matter, parents making decisions about their children’s health deserve to have the best information available to them. They should be able to count on federal agencies to tell them the truth…In August 2014, Dr. William Thompson, a senior scientist at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, worked with a whistleblower attorney to provide my office with documents related to a 2004 CDC study that examined the possibility of a relationship between [the] mumps, measles, rubella vaccine and autism. In a statement released in August, 2014, Dr. Thompson stated, ‘I regret that my co-authors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics.’ “
    Since 2014, requests to allow Dr. William Thompson to testify have been denied by the CDC.Claim 7. Autism is genetic, not environmental. There is no epidemic because changing diagnostic criteria explains the rise.
    * There is no such thing as a genetic epidemic and diagnostic substitution cannot account for the skyrocketing numbers of children now diagnosed with autism.
    * What we can glean from the science is that autism requires an environmental trigger to cause the epidemic increases we’re seeing in not only autism, but ADHD, tics, allergies and a laundry list of other childhood disorders that we have not seen in past generations.
    * Researchers have been searching for the elusive autism gene for decades and still haven’t found it despite spending hundreds of millions of dollars in their pursuit. There may be as many as 1,000 genes involved in autism risk and many of the most promising genetic findings are acquired mutations that point to environmental factors as the cause of the mutations. The expansion of genetic studies has found that, in families who have two children diagnosed with autism, the siblings often don’t share the same gene changes, which has raised the possibility that the disorder isn’t inherited even when it runs in families. This begs the question of shared environmental factors or risk conditions.
    * One of the largest twin studies to date published in 2011 also found the role of the environment has been underestimated. The study found that the children’s environment represents more than 1/2 the susceptibility: 55% in severe autism and 58% in the broader spectrum, while genetics was involved in 37% and 38% of the risk respectively.
    * We often hear that autism starts in utero because initial studies that looked at abnormal brain growth associated with autism reported the abnormalities occurred prenatally, but that work has been challenged by Harvard researchers who used advanced imaging techniques and reported that the brain overgrowth was being driven by the white matter of the brain. The observed overgrowth of the white matter occurred after birth and may be related to the process of myelination. The white matter overgrowth was also seen in infants with developmental language disorders, which is often one of the first symptoms of autism in children.

    Claim 8. The United States already has a vaccine safety commission.
    * Any appearance of vaccine safety efforts made by the CDC and its pundits is a facade. A government agency charged with ensuring high vaccination uptake in the population should not be entrusted to ensure that vaccines are as safe as possible.
    * The CDC is in the vaccine business, a tremendous conflict of interest when that same agency is tasked with promoting mass-scale vaccination. According to a 2003 UPI Investigation, the CDC held 28 vaccine licensing agreements at that time. In 2017, another analysis found that the CDC now holds at least 57 patents related to vaccines.
    * Members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, who determine vaccine recommendations, are allowed to have financial conflicts, some even profiting from the vaccine decisions the committee recommends.
    * The revolving door between the CDC and the vaccine industry is blatant and has gone unchecked for decades.

    Claim 9. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is an “anti-vaxxer”.
    * This type of bullying terminology is an attempt to censor opinion and silence debate. There are very real problems with vaccine safety, efficacy, pharmaceutical influence in public interest decision making and policy, and conflicts of interest among the regulators of our government agencies expected to protect Americans from harm. That is the story that needs to be covered. Name calling does nothing to advance the discussion of these critical issues.
    * Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. ensured that all of his six children were fully vaccinated. But when he read the independent, peer-reviewed research linking vaccines with serious health conditions and talked to pharmaceutical and government “experts”, he was convinced that mercury was driving the epidemic of neurological and immunological injuries impacting today’s children in numbers never before seen in history.
    * Kennedy was also concerned over the lack of true vaccine safety science. The few existing CDC safety studies are rife with errors and additionally, CDC whistleblower William Thompson claims some of them to be fraudulent.
    * Proclaiming that Mr. Kennedy is “anti-vaccine” effectively dismisses not only what tens of thousands of parents have witnessed but also what a growing amount of published, reputable science is bearing out. He wants trustworthy regulators who will actually do their jobs in protecting the health of our nation’s citizens.

    When it comes to the safety and well-being of their children, parents and caregivers have every right to pose questions

    Claim 10. Unvaccinated people make others sick. Vaccines should be mandatory with no philosophical, medical or religious exemptions.
    * History shows us that vaccinated people can also spread diseases and infections. This is well illustrated by the 2016 Harvard mumps outbreak and the 2017 mumps outbreak at Syracuse University wherein all people diagnosed with mumps had received both recommended doses of the MMR vaccine. As mentioned above, according to two former Merck virologists who worked on the mumps portion of the MMR, the mumps vaccine is not effective.
    * In addition to the lack of efficacy in vaccines such as the MMR, vaccines made with live viruses such as MMR, chicken pox, rotavirus, influenza, and shingles can cause shedding of the viruses to the close contacts of those vaccinated. When it comes to the safety and well-being of their children, parents and caregivers have every right to pose questions, no matter the topic. Parents research the safest car seats, cribs, strollers and everything else that involves their children. Vaccines should also be on the table for questioning, researching, discussing, or criticizing. And if parents decide to refuse vaccines for their children, those decisions should be respected.
    * “One size fits all” is a questionable policy when it comes to medical treatment. Knowledgeable doctors realize that there isn’t a single medical procedure that works well for the entire population—and that includes vaccines. Published science also supports the fact that some people with genetic predispositions or biological susceptibilities should not have vaccines. We desperately need more research in this area so we can identify those likely to be harmed so we can modify their vaccine schedule. Have we traded acute childhood illness for lifelong chronic disease? The American public is become increasingly aware of the rapid decline in the health of our nation’s children and are worried that the ever-expanding childhood vaccine schedule—that has tripled since the 1980’s—may be responsible for the current epidemic of serious childhood health conditions. These concerns are warranted given the fact that over half of the children in this country—54%–now have a chronic health condition.
    * Mandated vaccines are in direct opposition to informed consent, the number one tenet of the Nuremberg Code: The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.

    Ignoring facts, research and conflicts of interest within regulatory agencies has created a smoke screen to cover the obvious truth of the matter—vaccines are not as safe and effective as our government agencies and mainstream media would have us believe. Vaccines can and do cause serious injuries including autism and many other adverse health outcomes.

    • Wow, long copy and paste.
      The thimerosal autism link was the most obviously false one. When thimerosal was removed from most vaccinationsnn and thimerosal exposure went way down, autism rates should have dropped, if autism was caused by thimerosal. But it didn’t, in fact it continued to rise. Meaning that the whole thimerosal-autism link is fake. Meaning the claims of CDC cover up is fake. Which is why most of the anti-vacc people have now moved on to a new theory, this time blaming aluminum. No doubt they will soon move on to something else in the vaccines.

      • “….The current CDC pediatric schedule recommends children receive as many as nine vaccines all at the same office visit. The safety of combining vaccines, which include aborted fetal tissue, mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, animal and human DNA, and more—in infants and young children has not been tested….”

        Mercury is only one of the ingredients that are in the various vaccines.

        A “theory” can be true or false. The links between the various vaccine additives, their combination, and the current CDC-recommended “vaccine schedule” are no longer mere theory. Numerous independent scientific studies have now proven those links.

        One problem is that it takes an average of 17 years for the results of such studies to get to the public, and then only if they are not hidden by those who stand to loose money on the declining sales of the offending products.

    • Um…. can you summarize that in one or two sentences, please?

      FYI, human nature is that the longer the post, the more likely one is to skip over it. So I would say that 92% of people here are not reading more than the first paragraph.

      Including me.

  8. sarah;
    i’m so sorry for your loss. every time I read another pro-vaccine post or article specifically in the “frum” sites my hear breaks for your child, for you as a mother who suffered from the loss of a child caused by a vaccine and for all the children that I see in our community who are clearly not right.

    I too have a child that suffered a vaccine related injury that will impact him for the rest of his life.

    Hashem should comfort you in your loss. I daven for you and for your family, for all of the children of klal yisroel who are being injured every day by vaccines, and for the many families that struggle with vaccine damaged children.

    • As I sharply remarked above on Mrs. Sarah’s comment, I fully identify with and feel horrible pain of your horrific situation with your own vaccine-caused-handicapped-child. What is the Jewish name and the mother’s Jewish name so that we can be Mispallel for a Refua Shelaima?

    • Along with the problem of vaccinations, there are several other common modern medical treatments that are also harming significant numbers of people. One very big item is in the DENTAL section of the medical world; it is that of the material that is commonly used for filling the cavities of decayed teeth. Now, everyone (on all sides of the issue) fully agrees that THE BEST material for filling teeth is the top quality metal GOLD. It is not toxic to the patient and is the most durable. However, being the exquisite material that it is, it is extremely expensive, so if only it would be used, dental work would be accessible only to the super rich.

      Of course, after gold, the next best quality metal is silver. However, as it has a brittle texture, by itself, it does not work as filling material; however, when it is mixed together with the metal MERCURY, they form a pliable paste-like substance that can easily be stuffed into holes to fill them up. So for over the last one and a half centuries, this mixture, called an “amalgam,” of about one half silver and about one half mercury and small amounts of copper, tin, nickel, and beryllium, has been virtually the standard filling material used by the modern dental world.

      The problem though is that mercury is an extremely strong poison that is very harmful to human beings. The response that the modern dental world gives to this objection is that once the amalgam is stuffed into the cavity, it becomes hard like a rock, and thus no mercury goes out of it into the person.

      What actually does occur though is a little bit different. At periodic check-ups, a dentist will inform a patient that he has a number of old fillings that are worn and cracked and thus need to be replaced. Now, how did these fillings become worn and cracked??? I thought they were hard and solid as a rock! So clearly, they are not hard exactly like a rock, but rather like a hard candy, which when left in a person’s mouth, soon wears down and dissolves, so the fillings too, as they are constantly in the patient’s mouth, they do eventually begin to wear down. So as they are slowly but surely continually wearing down inside the patient’s mouth, a little bit of the mercury in them too is obviously slowly but surely continually being worn out of them and going into the patient.

      Furthermore, testing instruments have continually detected significant amounts of mercury vapor coming off of patients’ amalgam filled teeth.

      To all of this, the modern dental & medical worlds retort that the tiny miniscule amounts of mercury that may wear off from amalgams and vaporize out of them are certainly not enough to make any trouble. (Similar to what they state regarding vaccinations) led by the ADA (the American Dental Association) they bluntly declare that there is absolutely no proof at all that the mercury in amalgams causes any illnesses.

      Again though, the actual facts are completely different from this propaganda. The World Health Organization itself admitted, that since mercury is such an exceedingly dangerous substance, there may well be no small amount of it that could be termed “safe.” Furthermore, the amounts of mercury vapor from amalgams that have been detected and measured have often been quite significant, NOT “tiny” and “miniscule.” Patients with large numbers of fillings had vapor amounts that were SOLIDLY ABOVE “official” government stated “safe” levels for mercury exposure. (See https://iaomt.org/wp-content/uploads/Fact-Sheet-Mercury-Vapor-Toxicity.pdf.)

  9. Makes no sense. If vaccines work, then why are they worried about a few unvaccinated children? They obviously don’t work all that well

    • your ignorance is showing!
      it’s called hard immunity. vaccines don’t magically work for those who have it and those that don’t. if not enough people vaccinate them the virus has a chance to replicate and mutate in an ungaccinated host. their are those who can’t actually get vaccinated or get vaccinated right away who unnvacinated people are putting in harms way by acting selfish!

    • Excellent observation! The demand-for-vaccinations demands that “everyone” be vaccinated in order to produce this supposed “herd immunity”; why should that be necessary??? The pro-vaxxers heap stinging vile of condemnation upon those who do not want the inoculation shots, stating they are “selfish” and are “endangering the safety of everyone else.” How are they “endangering the safety of everyone else”??? As “everyone else” took their holy, holy, holy vaccinations and are thus “protected” against all the diseases, WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO THEM THAT THERE ARE SOME NON-VACCINATED PEOPLE OUT THERE??? HOW ARE THE NON-VACCINATED PEOPLE HURTING THEM??? HOW CAN ANY NON-VACCINATED PERSON EVEN POSSIBLY HURT THEM???

      The only answer is that these bizarre demands and condemnations that the pro-vaxxers so vehemently make are obviously CLEAR ADMISSIONS that vaccinations DO NOT provide their recipients with any real “shields” of “protection”! The vaccination recipients are still just as vulnerable to the diseases as ever!

  10. Vaccines don’t “work” for life. Why didn’t he add that any adult who hasn’t had boosters for all their shots should also not attend? Because this is information that he doesn’t want people to have.

  11. Three countries —Great Britain, Sweden and Japan — cut back the use of pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine because of fear about the vaccine. The effect was dramatic and immediate. In Great Britain, a drop in pertussis vaccination in 1974 was followed by an epidemic of more than 100,000 cases of pertussis and 36 deaths by 1978. In Japan, around the same time, a drop in vaccination rates from 70% to 20%-40% led to a jump in pertussis from 393 cases and no deaths in 1974 to 13,000 cases and 41 deaths in 1979. In Sweden, the annual incidence rate of pertussis per 100,000 children of 0-6 years of age increased from 700 cases in 1981 to 3,200 in 1985.

  12. For every 1 medical doctor in a first world country who is anti vaccine there are 1000 medical doctors who are pro vaccine.

  13. “The event organizers ask that attendees not endanger others by bringing someone who is not immunized.”
    It is his carnival, and he can invite whoever he wants to invite, however, must every parent, and grandparent who plan on going to the carnival be fully immunized? Is Dr. Roberts fully immunized? did hehave the MMR shot within the last ten years? How about the flu shot? How about people who actually have the flu? Will they be allowed in?

  14. can someone please get one of the lakewood pediatricians that are promoting the idea that unvaccinated children should be thrown out of school to address the question of how much money they make for vaccinating kids?

    This question needs to be asked in a public forum and the books and records of the pediatricians should undergo an independent audit.

    pediatricians are compensated very well for having high compliance when it comes to vaccination rates, they are given bonuses $$$ for meeting certain levels of vaccination and in general their compensation rates for all treatments are higher if they have a high level of vaccine compliance.

    Dr Roberts mentioned in his video on the lakewoodscoop that pediatricians do not make money for vaccinating children this is 100% falsehood. They do make money and the more they vaccinate the more money they make.

    let’s see if the pediatricians that are hiding behind Dr Roberts are willing to come forward and tell the truth about this.

    • The pediatricians have come forward many times, and they say that they don’t make money, but it doesn’t matter. The pro-polio crowd keeps making up stories of kickbacks to pediatrician. Everyone in Lakewood knows that the pediatricians there are the most dedicated individuals around, the idea of them getting paid to give dangerous products to their patients is completely ridiculous.
      Of course, the pro-polio crowd completely ignores the amount of money that their “scientists” have made off of the naivety of the pro-polio folks. You should check out pics of Andrew Wakefield’s Texas mansion. He was in the process of forming a 70 million dollar company (!!!) based on his fraudulent research, yet the pro-polio people have no problem following him. But when the dedicated pediatricians (who are are well known to give up their time, money, privacy, and basically their whole life for the public good) ask you to please protect yourself and others from disease, you start making up stories about kickbacks.

  15. Among the many proofs that vaccines don’t cause autism is that autism is 4 to 5 times more likely to happen to a male than a female yet girls receive vaccinations at the same rate as boys do.
    Also, accusing ehrliche doctors, many who are talmidei chachomim, of lying when they say vaccines are critical in our world because of the money they receive when using them, is a ignorant accusation.

    • @common sense – it is scientifically documented that mercury impacts the male genome much more severely than the female genome -. look at the research done by Dr. Hayley Boyd who tested the impact of mercury on neurons. sorry can you spend a few minutes doing research before you make your claims.

      @common sense – if you have such tremendous common sense why don’t you demand a study of the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated to once and for all solve this question??? why for that matter hasn’t big pharma done this study??? the answer is quite simple if you want to know the truth if you don’t well that’s another issue.

      Chazal tell us that you can’t trust anyone if they receive bribes, doesn’t matter if the person is the most Ehrliche, talmid chachom in the world moshe rabbeinu himself would not be able to pass judgement on an issue where he had negios. so although the doctors may be very well meaning the fact remains that they have tremendous negios and this will impact their judgement.

      • Very funny how you say how bribes and negios will impact your judgement in the same post that you quote Byod Haley. Boyd Haley, the chemistry professor that the pro-polio all hide behind, is the one who made up the mercury-autism link. And what do you know, he just “happens” to have invented a product (called OSR) that will remove mercury from your body and “cure” autism. Same thing with Wakefield, he was in the process of forming a company valued at 70 million dollars based on his “research” nefore his fraud was uncovered (and he was actually paid 400,000 British pounds to write his research by a law firm trying to sue vaccine makers). The pro-polio love to talk about negios, they make up stoeies about kickbacks, whne really they have fallen for the get-rich-quock schemes of a few quacks.

  16. It’s incredible that so many people are convinced that doctors, the AMA and pharmaceutical companies are modern day versions of Dr. Mengele ym”s, blithely and deliberately doing harm to millions of children in order to line their own pockets. Even a tremendous ba’al chesed like Dr. Roberts (who I don’t know and never met, but know by his deeds) isn’t spared from that judgement in their eyes. Do they actually think that the thousands of doctors and nurses who graduate medical school every year join into a massive worldwide conspiracy to poison our kids?

    Nobody claims all doctors, nurses and science is perfect. There have been medicines withdrawn from use (fen-phen, thalidomide and others) because of the harm they caused and I personally have lost two relatives due to doctors’ errors. Even a U.S. President (James Garfield) died because of doctors’ errors. Nonetheless, the number of patients saved by medical treatment and medicines is umpteen millions greater than those who’ve been harmed, and certainly those who have been hurt have been tragic mishaps, not deliberate poisonings. Let me also mention the many, many relatives of mine whose lives have been extended and improved by modern surgeries and medicines, including those for mental health.

    I’m not trying to change the minds of anti-vaxxers – they’re way too far gone and in their minds I’m either part of the conspiracy or a gullible “sheeple”. What I’m doing is appealing to anyone who reads their pseudoscientific cut-and-paste babble to speak to a *real* doctor you trust and find out just how dangerous and misguided following anti-vaxxers deadly advice can be.

  17. cont.
    Just to clarify, the two relatives I lost due to physician error both had undetected conditions that were fatal, so not going to the hospital wasn’t something that would’ve saved them – the error was one of omission, not commission.

  18. Among the many proofs that vaccines don’t cause autism is that autism is 4 to 5 times more likely to happen to a male than a female yet girls receive vaccinations at the same rate as boys do.
    Also, accusing ehrliche doctors, many who are talmidei chachomim, of lying when they say vaccines are critical in our world because of the money they receive when using them, is an ignorant accusation.

  19. To anonymous – Dr. Boyd Hayley (not Hayley Boyd) is not one to be taken seriously. He’s a nutcase who made a fool of himself publicly many times. In fact twice in court his testimony was dismissed because he lacked a basic understanding of neurology.
    Second, I have two relatives who are retired doctors who have nothing to lose by condemning vaccines and they both laugh at how gullible and ignorant many people who are against vaccines have become.

  20. It is funny that the people who say modern medicine is evil, vaccines are a conspiracy blablabla will have NO problem trusting these same doctors if they have c’v a medical emergency, such as a broken bone or heart issue. Then they won’t ‘do the research’ or quote some website..they will go to that doctor right away!!!

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