Just wondering, did anyone consider that this might be someone’s mother, grandmother, close friend. May have been a tremendous Tzadekes. Is it really ok to publish something that seems to be making fun?
While I’m far from perfect myself with shmiras halashon, “Did anyone consider? July 29, 2019 at 4:03 pm” is absolutely right. Our diets may be “bland” without forbidden foods and our speech may be “bland” without forbidden lashon hora and ona’as devorim, but that doesn’t mean we may ignore halocha.
“and what halacha is violated? name one!”
You truly don’t know? Even after loshon hora and ona’as devorim are explicitly spelled out? You are defending the indefensible.
Perhaps learn some hilchos loshon hora and shmiras halashon. Also, see what the Chofetz Chaim says about loshon hora, even on one who’s deceased.
I don’t know the details about this one, but I had a not frum cousin who passed away. The funeral was in Brooklyn so I went. The officiating rabbi was an old time reform / conservative clergyman. At the kail malei rachamim he said the name Boruch AISAV. After the service, I went over to the Rabbi and asked where did you get Aisav from? I made some phone calls and found out his second name was Issur. Imagine seeing a matzaiva with the name Boruch Aisav.
I understand this. The name Isser sounds like Esau. Probably the mohel was a European Jew who didn’t know English well. He wrote the name down for the parents in English as Esau.
To: Did anyone consider?
Well said & to the point. Is it not a Principle in Halacha? “Ein Omrim Bef.Nei Ha’mes. Elo Divorim Sh’B’mes”. I would venture to say, that this would apply following “Kevura” also.
“Kalos Rosh” has no place in this this case; no matter how ‘unusual’ or ‘curious’.
To: ah yid:
Amusing; but, tragic.
Shows the “Am’Aratzuz” of the Conservative / Reform, so called “Rabbis”. “Loi Oleinu”; G-D save us, & the “Yiden” that follow them, & ‘hang’ on theirs words, & worse, believe it to be “Toras Moshe”.
To: ah yid:
Amusing; but, tragic.
Shows the “Am’Aratzuz” of the Conservative / Reform, so called “Rabbis”. “Loi Oleinu”; G-D save us, & the “Yiden” that follow them, & ‘hang’ on theirs words, & worse, believe it to be “Toras Moshe”.
This matzeiva is likely the grandmother of my roommate in Ner Yisrael in 1974, Eliyakum. He told me that when his great-grandmother was expecting his grandmother they went to their Rav (I don’t know who it was) with a concern. They had lost several children born previously in infancy or at a young age. The Rav advised them to name the baby after the sedrah of the birth.
Addendum to my previous comment: I forgot to mention that he told me that his grandmother’s name was Matos-Masei. We were roommates at the time of the petira of his grandmother during the year of ’74-’75. Case closed!
It’s a good thing she wasn’t born a week earlier…
When was it ever lost?
Tremendous! Where was this discovery made? I’ve got to get over there as soon as possible.
Well, she was born on July 15, 1896. The previous Shabbos Torah reading was Parshas Matos – Masei.
No kidding Sherlock
It’s a good thing she wasn’t born a week earlier. She would have been named פנחס.
looks photo-shopped
Just wondering, did anyone consider that this might be someone’s mother, grandmother, close friend. May have been a tremendous Tzadekes. Is it really ok to publish something that seems to be making fun?
hello fellow automaton. life is meant to be mundane and bland. nothing can be commented on!
While I’m far from perfect myself with shmiras halashon, “Did anyone consider? July 29, 2019 at 4:03 pm” is absolutely right. Our diets may be “bland” without forbidden foods and our speech may be “bland” without forbidden lashon hora and ona’as devorim, but that doesn’t mean we may ignore halocha.
and what halacha is violated? name one! dont pontificate on a soapbox. while pretending something was violated
“and what halacha is violated? name one!”
You truly don’t know? Even after loshon hora and ona’as devorim are explicitly spelled out? You are defending the indefensible.
Perhaps learn some hilchos loshon hora and shmiras halashon. Also, see what the Chofetz Chaim says about loshon hora, even on one who’s deceased.
Where’s the kever of Yekum Purkan?
The conservative movement took out that teffila r”l.
May the Neshama have an Aliyah.
It’s even better that she wasnt born 2 weeks earlier.
I don’t know the details about this one, but I had a not frum cousin who passed away. The funeral was in Brooklyn so I went. The officiating rabbi was an old time reform / conservative clergyman. At the kail malei rachamim he said the name Boruch AISAV. After the service, I went over to the Rabbi and asked where did you get Aisav from? I made some phone calls and found out his second name was Issur. Imagine seeing a matzaiva with the name Boruch Aisav.
I understand this. The name Isser sounds like Esau. Probably the mohel was a European Jew who didn’t know English well. He wrote the name down for the parents in English as Esau.
This mistake wasn’t by the bris. it was by the levaya. My point was the reform rabbi didn’t think to question the family about the name.
Where’s the Parsha that introduces baseball? Bereishis, In the Big Inning!
To: Did anyone consider?
Well said & to the point. Is it not a Principle in Halacha? “Ein Omrim Bef.Nei Ha’mes. Elo Divorim Sh’B’mes”. I would venture to say, that this would apply following “Kevura” also.
“Kalos Rosh” has no place in this this case; no matter how ‘unusual’ or ‘curious’.
I’m still looking for the matzeiva marked, “Acharei Mos Kedoshim.”
To: ah yid:
Amusing; but, tragic.
Shows the “Am’Aratzuz” of the Conservative / Reform, so called “Rabbis”. “Loi Oleinu”; G-D save us, & the “Yiden” that follow them, & ‘hang’ on theirs words, & worse, believe it to be “Toras Moshe”.
To: ah yid:
Amusing; but, tragic.
Shows the “Am’Aratzuz” of the Conservative / Reform, so called “Rabbis”. “Loi Oleinu”; G-D save us, & the “Yiden” that follow them, & ‘hang’ on theirs words, & worse, believe it to be “Toras Moshe”.
The tombstone was ordered for Molly, no Hebrew name, delivery date was week of M-M. Misunderstanding and delivery date became engraved Hebrew name.
The good news is there is shailah how to spell her name.
Could you imagine if it would have been Parshas Parah?
Can you repeat what you’ve just said?
This matzeiva is likely the grandmother of my roommate in Ner Yisrael in 1974, Eliyakum. He told me that when his great-grandmother was expecting his grandmother they went to their Rav (I don’t know who it was) with a concern. They had lost several children born previously in infancy or at a young age. The Rav advised them to name the baby after the sedrah of the birth.
There is a minhag to name a child after a person in that week’s parsha.
Does anyone know where is this Matzeva? Is there a family name on it?
I checked the calendar. The parshah that week was parshas vayikra.
Source: https://www.hebcal.com/hebcal/?year=5735&month=x&yt=H&v=1&nh=on&s=on&lg=s&vis=on&D=on&d=on&c=off
You mean the Parsah of her death.
The Parsah of her birth (July 15th) was almost certainly Matos Masey.
On another note if this isn’t Photoshopped then we are talking about a frum women who had a frum kevura.
The way to tell is that reform and conservative Jews write z’l instead of TNTZBH”C on their tombstones
Addendum to my previous comment: I forgot to mention that he told me that his grandmother’s name was Matos-Masei. We were roommates at the time of the petira of his grandmother during the year of ’74-’75. Case closed!