Matzav Inbox: Would Satmar Hire a Litvishe Singer for Their Maamad?

Ridiculous question! pure opening conversation for a lot of loshon hora! I hope nobody else responds!

Dear Letter Writer,
I’m genuinely sorry you feel this way. I simply don’t know what else to say.
Sincerely,
A Fellow Litvak

Sinas chinam. Sorry. The fact that they are not us in some way is sinas chinam. I’m not chasidish by the way. I’m a yid just like you. And we need to stop pushing stereotypes. And just because they won’t do it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t either. Bad middos on your part. Sorry

another idiot with another non-issue.
The singers were good, they did a good job, your insulted that they didnt have mordechai shapiro? or your upset Satmar wont hire him?
Grow up.

@matzav, you guys are idiots

Part of highlighting the litvishe olam hatorah is to contrast it to the chassidishe olam haniggun. It’s another example of showing that zoche milachto naasis al yidei acheirim.

No. And neither should they!

Silly stupid immature article looking to cause pirud. The fact that Matzav prints this piece of garbage is just another proof of how phony they truly are. For shame.

do u know any famous ehrlicheh litvishe singers? i dont
we focus on learning, not as much tfila/niggun….
they do have litvishe roshei kollel with chasidishe yungerleit
let every tzibur supply what theyre best at

Relax bro, Its not that deep

While the dear Yungerlite grab their free Danish , bottle of water and deli roll, the the gvirim who are honoring them , are laying back in their private boxes eating gourmet steaks with there wives.But rather than being negative, we appreciate that they are spending time with their spouses in a kosher environment.

It’s simple the organizer of the event is chasidish but you havea point

If you go to a baseball game, when they sing the national anthem there is also energy in the air. It’s easy to confuse spiritual energy based on Tumah
Flashing strobe lights, booming music, music sang by performing stars, crowd hysteria, are all goyish concepts ! How are we is doing all this to let our yungerliet get supposedly inspired by this MASS concert??

Buddy is this a joke? If TshaB’Av is a Tainis this year we’ll make sure to thank you

It was beautiful.

Is there not enough division already that you need to seek to sow more?

Puh-leez!!

What a horrible article! Am Echad B Lev Echad

Get a life

anti- semite

Of course there are nice little Fish singers – but you have to decide what vibes you wanna have, Agudah Siyum Hashas or Dirshu Siyum Hashas….

What is the point in this racist and segregation breeding letter ?

Shame on the writer , and shame on Matzav.com for posting it.

All the horrible tragedies r’l , come from letters like this.

With all do respect to all the litvish singers, there are none that can match the varmkeit and hartz of the chasidish singers which were at the event. It’s not even a match up, the chasidim just have it when it comes to this… secondly, what’s the point of hiring a litvish singer just because it’s a litvish organization.. Torah doesn’t discriminate

Oh please, it was an amazing event, and the music and the singing was beautiful! Lets not drag petty complaints into this. If you want to complain, there are always things you can complain about. Did you complain about the menu too?

Firstly the Mamad was amazing. The music the way it was was spectacular.
How many Litvisha choirs are there ? Zero

The conpany that’s running it knows who the oilam likes. If the oilam would not be interested they would not hire them. If there is no interest by a Rebbe Chassunah for a litvak singer why bother?

fortunately or unfortunately -there are Not too many if any -“Litvish” singers that remotely look like or represent Bnei Torah & what they stand for (I’m not familiar with this Jacoby fellow) and besides the singinging component is just done for the oilam to enjoy -and the facts are that my any litveshe or even often Modern wedding of means -will feature a chssidic singer -this has been the case for years… regular supply & demand…

Another kvetcher with too much time on his hands.

The fact is, their music and singing is what the oilam Hatorah is currently listening to. Do you know of a litvishe singer who is currently singing in an old fashion yiddishe style?

bec they are better zeh Hu

Besides for the wonderful Baruch Levin, most non-Chassidishe singers sound like when I used to go to the mall and come home with a huge headache due to the music on the speaker systems in the stores in the mall singing their nonsensical songs. In addition, today we are “blessed” with frum singers who “sing so hartzig” with their “impressive vocal range” singing in the range of women-like octaves …wow, how utterly impressive that these men sound like women…(and the women singers today sound like screeching vultures with their “impressive vocal range”)

When I turn on the 24/6 app I need to constantly skip to the next song because these “frum Jewish singers” have adopted the disgusting goyishe style of singing. Im not saying all Chassidishe singers are sing like Yidden, but there are many more Chassidishe singers who sing like Yidden should than non-Chassidishe ones.

I personally had similar thoughts, but from a different angle. Being in the music industry, I know most of the Jewish music artists, musicians, singers and supporting crews very well. I can testify firsthand They are a group of very hard working individuals. Most of the time, despite what the public may think, most of the industry walks away with very little pay based on how much work is put in to the craft.(with the expecting of maybe ten percent of the entire industry). They put in late hours, early hours, away from family….to bring simcha and neshoma to the Klall. Many of us struggle to support our families. Not only that, but many of us also learn a significant part of the day. The idea that there is an event to support Torah locally and not use those artists that are here in the US bothered me. Why are we not doing more to support our own locally?

That’s what we kept on saying – I totally agree

It is shameful that the writer feels that there has to be a split between the 2 streams. And what is wrong if they were chasidish singers – if they are good? Would the chassidishe take a Litvish singer – why should they if most of the talent available is Chassidish?
It is big nebech that we live acting and thinking that Chassidsh and Litvish (or Yeshivish) are two different parts of Klal Yisroel. We are all part of the same Klal Yisroel and have the same Father.
Actually, if people (especially in the Yeshivish world) would think more openly, the shidduchim problem would be greatly diminished.
Halevai

Captain Obvious here that this is a one of the most Stupidest letters every written. We are all in the same boat. Litvish daven in Chassidish Shul. Chassidim daven in Litvish etc… Besides the fact that if you to BMG you will see MANY MANY Chassidim. Truly a stupid letter. Either a troll or somebody living in a serious bubble with only litvish around them.

Hey you can go to a modern orthodox wedding and some of these singers will be singing there also!! Talent is talent case closed. I do not care what his background is if you got talent you get hired.

I also found that jarring. Especially when the oilam was singing in one havara and the singers another.

Litvaks gotta stay in their lane. They have their advantages. But when it comes to music -they are not even close. There is a reason the Chassidim are hired to sing. That is what the people want.

This is the most pathetic letter ever written.

Yes
I agree. We should have featured Mordechai Shapiro.
No we shouldn’t. Adirei hatorah IS NOT a “litvish” event it’s a Torah leaners event.
Thank you (are you actually from the olam hatorah?)

The hashkafa of a litvak is not to sing there is a reaon you dont have “yeshivish” singers I think its beutiful act of achdus

Go ahead. Create a list of Tier 1 litvish singers that also give over the Ben Torah feel.

I’ll give it to you. Simcha Jacoby is great. He didn’t make it to Tier 1 yet, but he’ll be there soon. Perhaps they should have had him.

The only other that comes to mind is Baruch Levine. But go ahead and list some others on that caliber…

The Bnei Torah world has a problem. The majority of the solid “Litvish” singer give up the Ben Torah identity once they reach a top tier level.

Know some truly talented Bnei Torah that are willing share their talents with the world? Please Please Please have them come out with some nice work.

What exactly makes someone having שייכות to עולם התורה, is it the havoro of Naftoli Kempeh? or is it the tosfos Aizik Honig or Sruli Werdiger break their head on? A little bit Klein keppledig.
By the way I would like to know if your so called litvishe singers ancestors come from the oilam
hatorah or are hard core american young israel or even Mizrahi or Israeli kibbutznikim, etc

When you hire a chasidisha producer to arrange an event, he will hire those he’s most comfortable with. Mr Steimentz works with these singers all the time, so that’s who he arranged to sing.

Shame on the writer for this narrow-minded and racist, and segregation breeding letter!

It was nice, and people enjoyed it. Why do you need to ruin it?

I’m willing to bet out of 30,000 no more then 10 participants would have any issue with the singer selection. Although there are some exceptions; overall, Chassidishe singers bring a certain Ruach and Geshmak and Hartz that you don’t find in the Litvishe world. They did an unbelievable job uplifting the Oilam.

Do you know how many Chasiddim learn (and live) in Lakewood? Why are you so bitter?

loshon horah!! delete this post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Maybe they were busy singing at a chasuna where the absent Rabbonim you criticized for not coming were officiating
2. Maybe they charge more and Adirei wasn’t willing to pay more
3. Maybe deep down Litvish really want to be Chassidim and enjoy their music and leibadigkeit more

so so true -i’ve been saying this since the first Adirei Torah

I love Chassidim – but their Havarah is not the way I connect to the RBSH”O

there’s N Kempeh, Moishy Katz and others who are Bnei Torah and beautifully inspirational –

As you mentioned, Adiei HaTorah is/was for Kavod HaTorah. The Torah as we all know, was given to all Yidden. The basis of your question really misrepresent what the event stood for.

Some of these comments are truly nasty. The writer was merely stating his opinion. He may have a point. But, regardless,…. You guys (and gals) don’t have to get so worked up if you disagree with him. Just move on.

The letter is spot on. Been saying this for a while.

of course satmer would have litfishe singers. that is if their on sale

All those commenting on the havara should know that havara has nothing to do with chasidus. Havara has to do with countries or region. Those chasidim who come from Russia, Belarus, Lita-Polin etc. have the so-called Litvish havara. Such as Slonim, Breslov, Stolin, Chabad etc. Many non chasidim from Hungary, Slovakia Romania etc. have the so-called chadidish havara. Since chasidim still have kehilos based on areas they originated from they maintained their havara unlike the non chasidim who have very few such kehilos so there havara became assimilated.

Do you know why litfaks need Yanky Daskal, Zanvil Weinberger and Hershy Weinberger, go visit a real old litfishe minyan for lecha dodi on Friday night.
SEEK HELP, YOU MONUMENTAL SHOYTA!

The letter writer is correct

I just came from 2 weddings. One was chassidish crowd with chassidish singer, and the other one was a litvish yeshiva bochur crowd with litvish singer

It was two worlds. I’m not saying one was better than the other. Both very very leibedig. But they were so different. The song selections, the styles etc

This WHOLE choice of topic was editorial troll

I think a Litvish event featuring Chassidish singers is a beautiful example of ahavas Yisrael.

I bet it made Hashem even happier.