Breaking Israel News reported on a story making its rounds in Israel this week. A young talmid chocham from Chutz L’Aretz visited Rav Chaim Kanievsky on Shabbos and asked the rav if he should apply for Israeli citizenship in order to vote for the Degel Hatorah party in the Israeli elections being held on April 9.
“There is no need,” Rav Kanievsky reportedly responded. “Moshiach will already be here before the elections.”
The young man was unsure that he had heard the rabbi correctly so after he departed from the house, he asked Rav Chaim’s grandson, a venerated rabbi in his own right, to confirm the answer. The grandson entered Rav Chaim’s chamber and asked again: ‘Should the young man apply for citizenship before the elections?’
The Godol Hador responded, “I already told him that there is no need. Moshiach will be here before the elections.”
{Matzav.com}
Of coarse he said that because we believe that Moshiach will be here tomorrow.
Wait a minute. So what about all those who already have reservations for some exotic one of a kind Pesach vacation extravaganza?! Can’t Moshiach wait at least till after Pesach?
I hope you are joking – Its “funny enough” to make anyone cry
During pesach, ofcourse! Or today G-d willing
Interesting Rabbi Glazerson discovered the same info in the “Torah Codes” last week. Pesach is not until April 19th. About your once in a lifetime extravaganza…what more “wonders and miracles and joy” than to witness the arrival of the Moshiach in our time…from the “sound of the shofar heard around the world to the Beit HaMikdash and the gathering of the exiles. what could be more exciting??????
MOSHIACH now…MOSHIACH now…MOSHIACH NOW.
אמן – כן יהי רצון
Show me a recording or a letter to that effect.
tzadikim dont make comments derech agav that are as serious as these – you obviously didnt understand the words of the tzadik vehalevai sheyovoh
Sure as soon as we do teshuva as one loving nation together. Mashiach will come.
Hashem is just waiting for our call and loves all of us. I.e. if a person in general wants anything in life he needs to do more then just daven for it and say tehillim. HE NEEDS TO YEARN FOR IT. sadly in today’s generation we are so happy in golus living a life of technology, vacations and fancy cars etc….
Don’t fool yourself, If we were REALLY mourning for the Bais Hamikdosh then we would not look forward to chatzos on Tisha Bav so we can get up from the floor. We would even be willing to fast an extra day but right now today on tisha bav we just beg Hashem for one thing to rebuild the bais Hamikdosh.
May we all start to wake up to life and reality soon so we can come to the coming of Mashiach ASAP
Speak for yourself. Technology will be around when Moshiach comes.
Who says?
electromagnetic intereference
and why would their be electromagnetic interference? you might want to have your head checked!
Basically what Reb Chain is teaching us, that we need to have Emuna that Moshiach will come, and therefore why bother.
In other words we need to change our thought process and not live life as if moshiach wont come indefinitely.
To make plans for months in advance to do something that is not going to be around if moshiach comes, is showing that our Emunah in Moshiach coming is only in words.
Exactly!
Since most readers don’t get that, this story shouldnt be posted to begin with
sure reinterpret everything. yes means no. up means down. left means right.
Anonymous January 23, 2019 at 12:06 am
I agree 1000%!
So you only agree 1000%. That’s not total agreement because you should’ve said 100000000000…. infinitely%. Had you agreed 100% it would have been a complete agreement.
I think it means the Bochur should NOT make Aliya….
It’s an age old expression…..it will happen when Moshiach comes..
Thank you Dovid,So tell me why are you on the Internet?
When you stop eating sushi and consume only chalav yisroel, then Moshiach will come.
a first step would be when the streets are not filled with children with no yeshiva or beis yakov to call home maybe moshiach will come!
I thought he was coming Motzei Shviis ….
And then last year …
Maybe the pre-election turmoil will create so much Sinas chinam that we’ll all be a דור of כולו חייב , and then moshiach will come ….it’s possible …
Or maybe the anti anti Vaxxers already created so much sinus chinam that we are already there
There are some comments here that clearly are complacent where they are and dont even want moshiach! How sad
Yes, but with mid-winter vacation coming up, the tzibbur is busy with other plans. When the Yidden went out of Mitzraim only 1/5th made it out. The rest were busy with Pesach vacations and building another summer home and going skiing, etc… Can’t wait to see which of my neighbors makes it out this time around.
I believe there’s a source that by the final Geulah everyone makes it out.
Also, it’s interesting to note:
1. did R’Chaim say this regarding any other shaila recently.
2. where are all the opinions on everything else he says?
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and your so confident you will make it out? that say more about you than you think!
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wow judging your fellow jews how sad!
Iran is threatening the war to end Israel and Og and Magog are destroyed when Hashem stops a horrendous fireball attack from Iran and the world acknowledges Hashem.
If the report is true, it is a metsiyus and will happen, as a shita of a gadol is a real thing.
But designating a specific candidate as a _certain_ candidate for Moshiach can only be done by Sanhedrin or confirmed Navi. Even a rav as great as Rabbi Akiva can’t individually declare a certain moshiach, rather only a personally preferred candidate for a likely-Moshiach. Either way, it would be a profound affect on Israeli politics, if the report is accurate.
…If, however, the Rav assembles a group of great sages to confirm his choice, that would be even more significant.
A messianic candidate must first bring in the exiles and rebuild the Bais HaMikdash in it’s place, according to Rambam, in order to be proven the one and _certain_ Moshiach.
moshiach was already chosen and anointed as it says “מצאתי דוד עבדי בשמן קדשו משחתיו
Maybe he should retire.
You guys are all nuts!!! Each to their own! Knowone has to hear your garbage! I think that most of this is coming from fear of what will happen to yourselves when Moshiach does IYH come!!!
When are the elections? What happens if mosiach does not arrive. How will this affect my belief in Daas Torah and Emunas Chachamin. How will I explain this to others who believe that Rav Chaim is the closest thing to Hashem? Are there other gedolim who have made such predictions in the past. What happened to those predictions. What was the aftermath? Are there any others who today collaborate his words? How does he know this information? I thought we were taught that we no longer have prophecy today. Most of us don’t even know what will be tomorrow. Does being a gadol mean you play by different rules. How do I become a Gadol. Can someone please explain. What does Rabashkin say about this? I thought he was the top authority on all religious matters. This religion of ours is getting stranger by the day.
I asked Reb Chaim’s grandson and he said that he never said such a thing, of course we hope that it happens.
Really???
הלווי!
That’s a legitimate reason to apply for citizenship?
Of course it happened on Shabbos.
Why would Matzav publish unconfirmed stories.rumor has it!
a first step would be when the streets are not filled with children with no yeshiva or beis yakov to call home maybe moshiach will come!
What Tzvi said!
all you people have no emunas chachomim! to tzvi:
you need a good social worker you are srsly messed up
good luck in life. I hope your married already because you pretty much messed up your chances.
I understood his reply to mean that the same way we need to have complete emunah daily that moshiach is coming today, we must also have complete emunah that Hashem is the only one who can orchestrate the outcome of an election. To me he is telling him, don’t take your own personal role in the outcome of an election so seriously – you can’t control it. Work on your emunah.
The time has come אמן
I asked Reb Chaim’s grandson and he said that he never said such a thing, of course we hope that it happens.
In the audio recording in the link below some guy who says that he heard from his mother that heard from the Rabbanit that someone asked Rav Kanievsky some question that the speaker does not understand exactly about passport maybe and that Rav Kanievsky replied: “you should not leave israel because moshiach is already here” and R Kanievsky repeated three times: He (moshiach) is already here!
Nothing is said about moshiach will be here before the elections. That may have been invented by someone or misunderstood!
Here is the link with the recording in Hebrew:
https://sod1820.co.il/%d7%9e%d7%a1%d7%a8%d7%99%d7%9d-%d7%9e%d7%92%d7%93%d7%95%d7%9c%d7%99-%d7%99%d7%a9%d7%a8%d7%90%d7%9c-%d7%a9%d7%a0%d7%9e%d7%a1%d7%a8%d7%95-%d7%91%d7%a7%d7%95-%d7%a1%d7%95%d7%93-%d7%94%d7%97%d7%a9%d7%9e/
Uri
ychi adonanu morenu vrabenu melech hamoshiach l’olam va-ed.
I don’t understand what everyone is fighting about. Like who cares! I like nachos. And tacos. Is it raining tacos from the sky? Is there all the nachos you can eat?
Same thing!
I hope my parable makes sense.
But like holy moly!!! Who cares, we should all try to be the best Jews that we can and then moshiach will come. I personally think that moshiach will come to Australia to have a BBQ first then go to israel.
My good friend Josef agrees with me.
#crazystuffhappensfrankganistan!!!
moshiach was already chosen and anointed as it says “מצאתי דוד עבדי בשמן קדשו משחתיו
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This is an alleged news site, is it not? So how about the next time you hear a rumor that a rabbi, of what ever stature, said something, you PICK UP THE PHONE and call to confirm it? Alternatively, you take a neder that should, chas ve shalom, Moshiach not come before the elections, you NEVER RUN ANOTHER STORY LIKE THIS.
To whoever edits comments: I don’t care if you approve this comment or not, just show it to your boss
Did anyone recognize him? I am afraid not. He is here, though. Just waiting.