Rav Zalman Leib of Satmar: Chareidi Representatives in the Knesset Are Murderers of Israel’s Souls

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Last week, a preparatory gathering was held in New York ahead of the Satmar-arranged Taharas Hakodesh asifa that will take place at the Arthur Ashe tennis stadium at Flushing Meadows-Corona Park in Queens, NY, coming Thursday. The aim of the event is to raise $12 million for Torah institutions in Israel that do not take funds from the Israeli government.

On Thursday, a gathering was held for members of Rav Zalman Leib of Satmar’s kehillah over age 60 who recall the battles waged by the Satmar Rov, Rav Yoel zt”l, against the state of Israel and Israeli elections.

At the event, Rav Zalman Leib attacked the Yahadut Hatorah party and called its members “murderers of souls.”

The Yahadut Hatorah party is comprised of the Degel Hatorah and Agudas Yisroel factions. Degel Hatorah is led by a Litvishe Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah. Agudas Yisroel is led by Chassidishe admorim. Degel is guided by Rav Chaim Kanievsky and others, who have stressed the importance of voting in the upcoming Israeli elections, as the gedolim, such as Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashiv zt“l and Rav Elazar Menachem Man Shach zt“l before him, have urged over the years.

Rav Zalman Leib expressed his opinion that the MKs guided by Rav Chaim, Rav Gershon Eldestein and other rabbonim are “rotzchei nefashos.

“During the establishment of the state, when it came to the decree of enlisting girls in the army, there was a campaign against it,” said Rav Zalman Leib. “Today, however, there is silence.

“Just a few years ago (in Lapid’s government), they (Agudas Yisroel) organized a ‘million man rally’ against the army draft decree and declared that if there was a decree, not one yeshiva student would join in the army. It was not long before the government changed and they became full partners in the government of destruction. Not only are they not protesting against the gezeiros, but they are abandoning thousands of lomdei Torah to enlist in the army, and even silencing any possible protest against it.”

Rav Zalman Leib also said, “Now, at the time of the elections, they suddenly remembered that there is a decree of enlistment, and they cry bitterly that only by increasing the representatives [in the Knesset] can they cancel the draft decree of boys and girls. This is like the novi said to Achav, “Hirtzachta vegam yorashta – You murdered and you also want to inherit?” They were partners in the murders of the souls of Yisroel…”

Signs have gone up around various American communities stating that this event to raise $12 million will be attended by Litvishe rabbonim including Rav Yisroel Kalmanowitz, Rav Shmuel Deutsch, Rav Asher Deutsch, Rzv Tzvi Friedman, Rav Ezriel Auerbach and Rav Avrohom Dov Auerbach, all of Eretz Yisroel. The signs do not state that the event is being arranged by Satmar.

Rav Chaim Kanievsky has stressed the importance of voting in the upcoming Israeli elections in several instances recently, such as when asked about a child whose father instructs him not to vote. Rav Chaim, as seen here, responded that the child need not listen to his father.

{Matzav.com}

17 COMMENTS

  1. Hut ehr gezugt
    Big deal
    Against all the Tzadikei Hador Then they scream when there are issues. If they would also vote, there would be minimum 2 more Frum voices heard
    But no, they are just critics that ruin it for all other Yidden
    Nebech

    • Their not voting is because their holy Rebbe advised them that it is against the Totah to vote so no they are not just critics they are loayal to the Daas Torah of their Rebbe!

  2. R Zalman Leib’s Satmar shita is a very old and very radical shita of the heilige Satmar rebbe Rav Yoel ztl zya (his great uncle) that being said almost no other yidden other than Satmar chasidim subscribe to his shita despite the Satmar rebbe being who he was because there were other Gedolay hador both chasidish and not that held otherwise to various degrees. It’s well known that Satmar chasidim will not go to the kosel. There are no other yidden who don’t go to the kosel based on that shita. Basically no need to chap hispalus from R ZLT reiterating the Satmar shita. If you’re not Satmar just follow the other gedolim beroishum Rav Chaim shlita

    • Very old doesn’t make it any weaker if anything it just makes it stronger! Radical? not at all, it’s very nicely explained Daas Torah in Seifer Vyoel Moshe of the Satmar Rebbe.

      • And the side of most Gedolei Yisroel, which most people follow, is very nicely explained in Baayos Hazman by Horav Reuvein Greuzovsky ZT’L

  3. This headline is an egregious misrepresentation of his words. All he says is the chareidi representatives tried to hush any protest against the draft bill, but now they want to cash in on the ‘crises’ of the draft bill to attract voters. The expression “haratzachta gam yarashta” is commonly used to express this and in no way can be interpreted as accusation of murder. Here’s the wikipedia entry on this expression. הביטוי “הֲרָצַחְתָּ וְגַם יָרָשְׁתָּ?” משמעותו שנעשה עוול על גבי עוול, כאשר בנוסף יש בהן הפקת הנאה ותועלת מפירות העוולה שהיא בחינת הגדלת העוולה מבחינת עושה העוולה, ומנגד “הוספת חטא על פשע” בבחינת הגדלת העוולה כלפי הקורבן.
    Either this is ignorance, intentional misrepresentation, or plagiarism. I’m not sure which is worse, but none reflect well on this website.

  4. In December 1998 the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled that the army cannot exempt all Yeshiva boys from the compulsory draft. Thus the Knesset was required to institute a new law that complies with the Supreme Court’s ruling.

    Until today, 20+ years later, we are still at the same stage; waiting for a law that complies with the Supreme Court.

    Who has prevented the Knesset during those 20 years from passing the law desired by the Supreme Court?

    • I’ve never understood that ruling—- it seems totally discriminatory to me .Why aren’t Israeli Arabs also required to serve in the IDF if haredim are? It seems very illogical and how can law support such discriminatory practices?Time for a voluntary IDF.

      • If you are among the 60-70% of Israelis who have difficulties in understanding the common-sense of the Bagatz (Supreme Court), tomorrow is the time to take action!!!

  5. Dear Mr. Live from Israel,

    What about the thousands buchirim and yungeliet who are serving today the israeli army?

    I know that they are not coming into belz yeshiva or other big yeshivas to take out buchirim to the army, but they are taking from small yeshivas, from sfardic yeshives, and from other minorities all over erets yisruel. If you want to dig your head into sand and don’t look on the truth, then I can’t tell you anything, but if you want to know what’s really going on, then don’t just beleive what your chavrie keneset telling you, make your own research, and you will be shocked!

    And that’s only about Giyus, let’s take a look on chinuch, do you know that in many frum schools they are NOT LEARNING “MASIE BEREISHIS!!!” AKIEDOS YITSCHUK, and by yetsias mitsreiyim when learning the makka of Dom, they are not learning about the bigness of the Nes, they are learning about how blood is working, the blood cels Etc.

    Erets Yisruel is now in a time of SHMAD!!! and that’s all because the money they get from this Kefira goverment, whitch thier purpose of existence is one and only goal: to do with all yidden exactly what they did with the jews of Tiemon, the children of tehran, and many more, to make them, to make US for jews without torah, porkei oll hatorah, and our jewdism should be based on a nation, instead to be the am hatorah.

    If all klal yisruel should follow the shita of the satmar ruv, which is the real daas torah which the gedolie hador of before the world war II, they wouldn’t have a shlita on us with noting, but now look what they are doing…

    This was the shita of the holy belzer ruv R’ Yishucher Dov! which the satmar ruv told many times, that he learned his shita in belz!

    • I see that you’re a devoted Satmar Chossid, and I guess that you don’t live in Eretz Yisroel.
      While I’m not here to inspire you to drop your Chasidus or disobey your Rebbe, it’s nevertheless important to clarify the actual facts.

      The IDF has done a lot during the past 10 Years to partially adapt some of its units to the needs of the Frum soldiers. This is not something that can or should be blocked by legislation (should the Frum MKs push for legislation that forces the IDF to have women in every unit?). By ramification, this has resulted in a sharp increase in the amount of frum soldiers. The vast majority of enlisted Frum soldiers, went by free will.
      What if the NYPD would somewhat adapt itself to the needs of frum policemen, and 500 Frum Yungeliet would join the police force within months? What would Moshe Dovid Niderman do to stop it? (maybe then you would burn trash on Lee Ave…)

      Now about Chinuch; everything sounds bigger and scarier when heard from far away, from unconventional news sources…
      There was once an inspector that told a playgroup teacher not to teach Akeidas Yitzchak (not a law but the inspector’s own desire), and the Teacher waited patiently for the inspector to leave the school… There is no way anybody can enforce such a stupidity, because we don’t have Goyim as english teachers (unlike the Chedarim of a certain community in Brooklyn).

      In general, the degree of Ruchnius of Eretz Yisroel’s children is much greater than anywhere else, they learn more Torah in Cheder and are much less pickled in Gashmiyus (not just in Me’ah Shearim, also in Gur and Belz). You don’t have to believe me, just jump over for a visit.

      The biggest threat to Frum education in Eretz Yisroel, is that Lapid wants to force all Chedarim to teach English and Math… (not a joke, just follow the news). And the principles together with the Frum MKs are fighting it with great success until now.

      To me it seems that the NYC government is much more into Shmading all Yidden – with the Gezeiros Hachinuch there.
      As far as I know, in every place in which there is a significant Frum community, there are some evil legislators who try to change them by force, mostly through Gezeiros on education, some with Gezeiros on Shechita and Metzitza B’peh etc.
      NY, Canada, England, Belgium…
      And that is why we vote!

      I’m sorry for giving out too much information, but as a person who lived in North Brooklyn and moved to the East/Center of Eretz Yisroel, I see the picture from an angle very few people share.

  6. Matzav: What’s the point of putting this on your website?
    Everyone knows your opinion. Most of the people that read this website don’t have to deal with this difficult question. And for those that feel that it’s a simple question please read sefer “baos hazman” from Rav Reuven Grozovsky Zt”l.

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