The Vaad Rabbonim of Karlin-Stolin issued a psak today allowing adherents to be mekel on listening to music during Sefira this year.
The psak comes as schools remain closed for the remainder of the school year and families have been stuck in their homes due to quarantine for over six weeks.
{Matzav.com}
Only if you have listened to all the other letters from the Rebbe can you listen to this. If you stayed home with your kids all day, every day basically since Purim and only left for essential shopping, and did not join any minyan aside from your window or on your porch, if you wore a mask and gloves since before the govt even made it mandatory, stand 6 feet away from others at all times can hou follow this as well!!!!!!!! Dont just become stolin when it comes to using internet and a smartphone with a filter and now sefirah. Listen to ALL he says!
What do you care if other people whom don’t “belong” to the Stolin Chasidus accept this psak? Also the rebbe didn’t sign this letter
wrong. for several reasons. firstly , in short – this is a halachick ruling, nothing to do with any rebbe . period
Relax
We are all on a website here so anyone here considers themselves of sound enough mind to draw a distinction of when to say something is appropriate and when not
We all have rabbonim and if they deem it worthy enough to rely on then so be it
If I don’t ask my rov that will be my decision
I thank you for your concern and please feel free to continue and try to convince me to see things as you do
Who says doesn’t say that in letter
that’s not true
Interesting that there are no names attached. Just a name of a (relativly) small chassidus. Even the Rebbe doesn’t put his signature on it.
If it’s only for Stolin, why publicize it to the whole Jewish world?
Since as you say it is a relatively small chasidus. Everyone in the chasidus knows that when these directives are given it is directly from the rebbe himself. In addition, if anyone has any question you can usually ask the rebbe himself, or one of his sons.
Good question.
An answer that comes to mind is that once you know someone holds of this hetter I may ask my rov if it’s also muttar for me. Not that I’ll latch onto the psak of an odom gadol who’s not my rov, but I’ll think to ask my rov if I may do so.
Not sure why you think Stolin is relatively small. There as re thousands of Stoliner chassidim in Eretz Yisroel, Brooklyn, Monsey, Lakewood, and London.
because they are stating the HALACHA as they see it. has nothing to with minhag…. or wether u eat kugel or keegel or neither or daven loudly or quietly.
Granted they are few, but they make up for it by being VERY vocal.
Very funny
stolin a small chasidus? they are a well known litvish chasidus!
Other Poskim have always said the same
Does it matter any less To you than an earthquake in Singapore
it was meant to be for Stolin everyone should listen to their own rav
Misleading News! The letter explicitly says “in a situation of need it’s ‘possible’ to be lenient” It does not say this year one can be meikel! It also specifically says that “when the situation improves” (individually / collectively) all the sefira customs are in force.
N8, relatively is spelled with an “e” between the “v” and the second “l’.
It’s definitely a nice idea, If not for the fact that we Jews are commanded to obey rulings of the Torah even in difficult times,
Do you think that Rabbi Akiva allowed his five remaining talmidim to listen to music after 24,000 of them died?
Do you think that he even had to address it?
It’s time that we man up.
hope ur not in chinuch or rabbanus or ….
ironic since you could say music should be forbidden since the destruction of the second beis hamikdosh
during the bleakest days of levaya after levaya leaving a wake of yesomim & almonos r”l… I feal like screaming my hart out during davening Stolin style
וניצעק אל ה’ אלוקי אבותינו
If people during the Holocaust were only looking for chumros and not for kulois to get them through the horror, dont you think we can handle no music during this rough patch which has no equivalence to the Holocaust?
who said people werent looking for kulas? it’s very easy to say something.
Music to my ears
Why?
(1) Because all Jews matter, and it woikd mean missing the entire lesson of sefirah – kovod for the baalei mesorah – if we would not appreciate and publicize this important and possibly helpful psak.
(2) Because there is no prohibition to listen to music specific to yimei sefirah. It is either always assur or always mutar under specific circumstances as explained clearly in Hilchos Taanis. When it comes to periods of mourning or introspection, the minhag is like the more stringent opinion. But when ones mental well being is at stake, when a fellow Jew’s Shalom Bayis, ability to learn and teach one’s children, one’s menuchas ha’nefesh are at stake, the halachah, apparently, is like the lenient opinion.
(3) Publishing it gives people the opportunity to ask their Rav for guidance, whereas before they may not have thought to do so.
1) Does this include having haircuts? in event that barbers reopen during Sephira, as I was unable to get haircut for Pessach this year, and my hair getting very uncomfortably long.
2) Does this include listening to Israeli music & songs & haTikva on יום-העצמאות?
Yes. According to some, including the mishneh brura, one can shave and get a haircut this Friday(rosh chodesh) being that the next day, Shabbos, is both Shabbos AND Rosh chodesh, so in honor of this special combination, one can shave/haircut even if you hold the first shita of sfira. As others have mentioned here, ask your Rav. You’ll be surprised. He won’t bite you.
I’m no Rav or Posek, but this psak makes a lot of sense especially for the elderly who are isolating themselves to prevent infection.
As ehrliche people why are you not posting a correction, especially if it misleads people in halacha?
whats to be corrected? ? ?
N8 you have alot of good questions but hopefully someone has an answer to them
Is it סטולין or סטאלין?
On the top it is spelled סטאלין, but down below, it is spelled סטולין.
probably hebrew vs yiddish
If there is a need to listen to music, as above, perhaps a היכר should be added, למשל making the volume a bit, or just a slight or wee bit, lower than usual (if that would not defeat the purpose of the playing) to be reminded that it is a temporary change due to special circumstances, not an overall change בכלל forever.
listening to music during the year is a leniency in itself. but everyone listens to music during the year without ang issues
its made for anybody worried for his own health and his familys health
Dont believe that people realy dont understand the importance of every yiddishe nefesh, and since music might calm someone down and help him get through this rough time. the poskim write thats its מותר, so why are we sooooo critisizing psakim like these that make so much sense that are givvin to us. dont like it!!! keep it to your self. let others that can have a boost with this psak take it calmly. lets try to live just to help other yiddishe nefashos which are going through very rough times!!!!!
The posters above looking for chumros and criticizing this psak should speak for themselves only.
You don’t know someone else ‘s matzav or pain. For them , some music is beneficial . Don’t be a tzaddik on someone else’s cheshbon.
Remember who this p’sak is addressing.
There are plenty of families where there are 5, 6, 7 young children cramped in tight quarters with no outlet other than struggle with their situation and mothers and fathers stuck at home to seal with it all along with the loss of פרנסה: does this p’sak now make a little more sense? Further, are the Rabbonim allowed to issue such a p’sak if they, collectively, see the issues that need attention? You are not “their” daas Torah. They are today’s daas Torah as the Torah says לא תסור מן הדבר אשר יגידו לך ימין ושמאל. They issue the פסקי הלכה for the דור. The Torah gives them that power.
So, in summation, if you have the need for a היתר, ask your Roov.
I always thought stolin was religious?
Harav Herschel Schachter Shlit”a gave the same heter.
TO ALL:::
Eyin Be Chelek Chamishi – 5 –
Be Shulcan Oruch…..
Use the little brains given to you….
Ato Chonen Le Odom DAAS !!!!!!!!!!!
To Some of you commenters::
When G-D gave brains,
You thought it was trains,
AND YOU JUST MISSED the train !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET A LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fifth Chelek Shulchan Oruch, you are so, so right! That’s called right on the money, or, קולע אל השערה. Perfect!!
Has any of the posters thought that maybe some homes are so stressed already, almost to breaking point? Where is their seichel! Like you said ‘Trains, not brains’!
As for the סטאלין vs. סטולין. It’s the same thing! Their chassidus uses both spellings all the time. I think it might be a U.S. thing vs. an Israeli thing. But they’re both the same.