The Matzav Shmoooze: Who Let the Dogs Out at a Wedding?

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Dear Editor,

Perhaps you’ve seen the video. May you’re lucky enough to have not.

The clip shows a dog being walked down to a chupah at a wedding, ostensibly held last night, with a song – a non-Jewish one – with the lyrics “Who let the dogs out?” playing in the background as the hound made its way down the aisle.

Have we no limits anymore? Does everything go these days? Are we not embarrassed?

We hopefully have kashrus supervision (do we?) at our weddings, simchos, and events. Do we supervise anything else? Do we care about what we represent? Do we care about what goes on at our most sacred times?

I am not here to point fingers at any specific people. I don’t know who’s responsible for the embarrassment you’ll see in the video below. Maybe it was done without anyone else’s knowledge. But can we have some accountability? Or is all hope lost?

I hope that your readers will tell me that this is an exception and not the rule, because I am quickly losing faith in our future…

A Reader

 

68 COMMENTS

    • Exactly!!!! I have no idea the back story here but I imagine it’s something kind of a special circumstance.

      Typical haters out there!!! For you haters do yourself a favor and talk to a Rosh Yeshiva or a Rav who know something a lot more then you do when dealing with special circumstances. Read Rabbi Trenks Ztl book… Maybe you would understand and educate yourselves.

      It’s amazing the same haters would look the other way if a big Baal Tzadakah did something out of the box. But a dog chas vsholom walking down the aisle and they go mesguah LOL.

      Just ignore the letter writer and people think the same.

      May the Chosson and Kallah have a huge Mazel Tov!

    • Halachik kiddushin with tuma. How does that work together whatever the circumstance? Maybe you’d also agree that the couple bring their pope to their chupah. No, not everything goes.

  1. Chillul Hashem of tremendous proportions! Is this the kedusha that the chosson and kalla want??? This is how they plan to build their bayis?! Worse, is that the guests don’t seem to care. Everything goes. If you have money and houses, the world is yours. You don’t have to answer to anybody. No one is going to tell me what to do. Rachmana litzlan.

    • It’s noneya business people! Not your wedding and certainly not any reason to try and shame 2 people who love each other very much. To each their own! They are a well loved couple who are giving more of themselves to their community then anyone trying to throw negative shade their way. #maverickrocks

    • Having no knowledge of who the people involved are, this is an incredibly hasty and unfair judgement of a situation that was extremely unusual and actually a beautiful Kiddush Hashem, just FYI.

  2. Totally not my style, taste or even haskafa but if added simchos choson vkalla I’ll mind my own business.

    Enough frum people hate dogs that there is no chance of this becoming a new fad or shtick

    Wishing the chosson and kalla that they build a bayis neeman biyisroel lshem vtiferas!!!

  3. Don’t get me wrong I do not approve of this attention seeking degrading situation. But our society is not going to improve by public condemnation. People will only change when they believe in something, and publicly pushing one’s belief’s unto others will not help. How about starting with positive pro-activism for example…. “Let’s stop speaking lashon hara” (case in point here where u have a video of hashems child and are publicly condemning them for their actions)

  4. “Have we no limits anymore? Does everything go these days? Are we not embarrassed?”

    I am far more embarrassed by this article and it’s being posted on a website like Matzav .com.

    Just because someone chose to do something original that you or I might not ever think to do at a wedding, means all is lost out there?

    Is this the best you have with which to say we have no limits anymore?

    What about pointing to the good deeds that come from our community which appear to have no limits? What about the learning and the support for learning?

    Is this the best you got?

    Alteh Bucher

  5. Here to answer all your questions:

    “Have we no limits anymore?”
    who is we?
    “Does everything go these days? ”
    No
    “Are we not embarrassed?”
    I am
    “We hopefully have kashrus supervision (do we?)”
    I do.
    “. Do we supervise anything else? ”
    Yes
    “Do we care about what we represent?”
    Again who is we?
    ” Do we care about what goes on at our most sacred times?”
    Again, “we” but yet I care and I suppose they care, they cared enough to involve their dog.

    “But can we have some accountability?”
    what? Accountability to you? what are you on?

    ” Or is all hope lost?”
    No no hope is

  6. It’s obviously not the norm and the reason why it made the rounds is specifically because this is considered abnormal.
    I think the issue is that it appears (by judging looks in a video clip; I can be totally wrong) that the person walking the dog and the other fellows approaching it and cheering wildly are teens on the fringe (use whatever term you’d like- I’m tired of trying not to offend anyone). We cater and tolerate so much to the elements of our society that aren’t normal we allow it to change holy events like this chuppah. This is perhaps akin to the musical selichos with open bar and Sushi.
    When you’re too open minded, your brain may fall out.

  7. Was the dog vaccinated? Why wasn’t the dog wearing a disposable mask? What a rodef and rotziach. How many people did the dog, and his walker, kill that night?

  8. I don’t see the point in posting it

    The only thing that can happen is that now more people will want to copy it

    And do the same at their wedding

  9. We need to look at the positive. No one knows the situation. And yes people do what they want in 2021. Whether it’s excessive drinking and lavish parties, Simchos that are over the top etc etc. for this couple the dog was important to them. Period. Do you know what any of them went through?
    So let’s all calm down. The problem is social media and everything going viral. A wedding is a private affair where a couple can do as they please.

  10. And this is the classic case of “dan lchaf zechus”- you only saw a part of this wedding and you are so quick to judge??

    I was at that wedding. And there is so much more than what meets the eye.
    Did the person who made this a viral video think of their actions before pressing “send”???

    How quick we are to condemn and accuse and lose faith in our “kedusha”???

    Lets leave the judging up to Hashem.

  11. You sick people judging someone else’s choices on their own wedding day!
    They want a dog, it’s their choice and if they choose a song that they felt is fitting, that’s their choice too.
    This shouldn’t be posted, nor should people have issues with dogs. Nowhere in Halacha does it say that you cannot have a dog or cannot bring a dog to your wedding.
    The Loshon Hora over here is just overwhelming and unfathomable, this is a frum page!!!
    Just ridiculous!

  12. To me the issue we have today is the people writing these letters. Loshon Hora, hating on others, constant judging and embarrassing someone in public that’s all ok ….. but the dog is the issue!!
    So to the letter writer- I just hope that years down the line you don’t regret what you said in public. And In the meanwhile go find something useful to do with your time

  13. Dear A Reader. Thanks for your opinion. Before I start my response, how do you feel about the seriousness of the Chupa, being belittled with little kids throwing rose peddles on the floor, or other distractions, were the mood changes to laughter
    Now my opinion, in short. Unless it’s against Halacha, what was wrong. Are we so vain, that we worry more about the outside people than our children’s feelings Your dealing with 5 hours of a couples future. And if something is a little off than we’re accustom to, so what Are you paying, we’re you in consultation, that you know details
    Does it bother you, people spending $30,000 for flowers, and they get tossed. Does it make sense by you to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for 5 hours. Caterers love this, but ask yourself, is this showing Hashem, thank you for giving me millions
    This amazingly doesn’t seem to bother you. Make a wedding for 50-75,000 and give to the poor
    Back to this Chupa. This Chupa was Kosher by every standard. This Chassona, was kosher by all standards. The men’s dancing was like a BMG wedding. The ladies had two sections. All kosher and proper. So let me ask you, are you so stringent on all Mitzvahs?? Or just nick picking.
    Your correct, this is unusual, but the end goal is given to them, for such a lively, Kosher and
    Beautiful Chassona. They gave into things, for other peoples sake, yet!!!!!! They did it B’Simacha
    Work on your own issues, and hope your never in a position that people judge you.
    May this Chasson & Kalah, merit to build a home on Wamth, Simcha and Ahava
    Mazel Tov Mazel Tov
    An extremely proud Zaidy of the Kalah
    Binyamin Clapman

  14. Maybe it was either the bride or groom’s emotional support dog? Or to someone in the family. It’s special to one of them obviously for various reasons. Stop judging.

  15. It looks like an Alaskan Malamute and while I’m not a fan of having a dog at a wedding but this dog is my all time favorite and so I must admit that this dog 100% absolutely belongs at a wedding. They are so unbelievably cute! I hope the dog enjoyed the shmoorgassboard…

  16. A great segulah for shalom bayis.

    It is brought down that a dog is called כלב because it is כולו לב. So to have a dog, which symbolizes that, at a chupah, is a gevaldige segulah for the zivug.

  17. The embarrassment is that you thought it was appropriate to write an article slandering a young couple and their entire family having no knowledge of the delicate circumstances surrounding what happened.
    How can you just assume that this was done without guidance? Who are you to judge what went on when you don’t even know whose wedding it was?
    If there’s no hope for the future it’s because of narrow-minded people who can’t find it in their hearts to judge other Jews favorably.
    Is this an ideal? Maybe not. But was it done with a deep cheshbon and a sensitivity to nuance that seems to be beyond your grasp? 100%.

  18. You obviously have no idea anything about this wedding and you shouldn’t give any of your 2 cents. Baruch Hashem there was a chuppah and who cares if there was a dog there? You didn’t see what else was going on at this wedding and if you did trust me you’ll be writing a whole new article. Next time do your research first. And just because there were frum people there it does not make it a frum wedding

  19. There is a precedent for this from the Yerushalmi:
    תלמוד ירושלמי מסכת תרומות פרק ח הלכה ג
    ברצות ה’ דרכי איש גם אויביו ישלים אתו ר’ אומר זה הכלב . . . . . . . . חד בר נש זמין חד רבן ואייתיב כלבא גביה א”ל ביזיון אנא חייב לך א”ל ר’ טיבו אנא משלם ליה שביין עלון לקרתא עאל חד מינהון בעא מינסב איתתי ואכל ביציו:
    .Better a dog than some people I know

  20. To my Dearst Brothers and Sisters KLAL YISROEL
    So sad AND SORRY TO SEE that this is all you captuerd from this most Beautiful kidush hashem wedding!!!!!!!!!!
    AS ALL YOUR LOOKING IS THRUE A PEEP HOLE!!!!!
    With much love,
    Yocheved
    MOTHER OF THE BRIDE

  21. It’s really disheartening to me, on a deep level, that people are condemning the letter writer and are forceful in defense of the family.
    It seems the consensus here is overwhelmingly “don’t judge” and “it’s not against halacha.”
    I’m not here to condemn the family, nor do I know the circumstances of this particular couple. But this whole attitude of don’t judge and as long as it’s within the letter of the law and you’re not allowed to condemn: it’s anti-Torah and is quickly becoming the downfall of our holy society.
    Someone else here commented about excessive spending for weddings which is entirely inappropriate, and he is totally correct. And both this and that are 100% related. As long as someone could say don’t judge me and it’s within the letter of the law, and that’s how people do whatever they want regardless of how it reflects the spirit of our holy laws.
    Nebach on us all.

  22. Who made you God????? Why is this even allowed ? The amount of lashon hara on the page… I’m embarrassed at how much gossip is spoken about people these days. We may have dogs at weddings (who ever said dogs r allowed??) But lashon hara is definitely a big no no. So please, all of you concerned citizens of Judaism kindly keep ur eyes averted and mouths shut when it comes to other peoples affairs. We go Up There alone.

  23. This is where ואהבת לרעך כמוך comes into play. Instead of judging someone else who does things different then you, let’s do ours on what we can learn from people who are not our “type”. The bride and family is basically like my own and the entire time they were busy making sure evreyone feels included and special.

  24. Would the letter-writer like the mashgiach kashrut to also give hashgacha to wedding shtick or should there be a second mashgiach for that (maybe one on each side of the mechitza)? Should the mashgiach also make sure all no one cuts the line for food at the shmorg and watch that everyone does netilat yadayim properly? Check that people who leave early bentched? Check that no one takes too many bentchers home? Examine the gifts?

    But why stop there? Every conversation, not just at weddings, should have a mashgiach to make sure that it is free of lashon hara and includes divrei Torah and no kefira. Eventually we need so many mashgichim that they’ll need mashgichim, too, and those mashgichim as well. אִם עֹשֶׁק רָשׁ וְגֵזֶל מִשְׁפָּט וָצֶדֶק תִּרְאֶה בַמְּדִינָה אַל תִּתְמַהּ עַל הַחֵפֶץ כִּי גָבֹהַּ מֵעַל גָּבֹהַּ שֹׁמֵר וּגְבֹהִים עֲלֵיהֶם.

  25. so many of the commenters here so many of them may pretend externally of claiming themselves to be Orthodox but they are fifth columnists
    the libertarian attitudes of so many of the commenters here is antithesis of
    our religion
    these comments are worse even than the video .
    Yes we were given responsibility for a collective whole people
    and this undoubtedly is a breach of the sanctity of marriage

  26. It’s so comforting to see so many people just like me that don’t have anything good to do so they sit here writing comments.

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