Late Tuesday afternoon, the New York State Supreme Court ruled that Yeshiva University in New York City as to recognize and support -on an equal basis with all other school clubs – the YU Pride Alliance, which promotes alternative lifestyles.
Of particular note, Matzav.com points out, is the language on page 7 of the decision stating that Yeshiva University’s charter says that it “is organized and operated exclusively for educational purposes.”
The court averred that “Yeshiva is a university which provides educational instruction, first and foremost. Yeshiva’s religious character evidenced by required religious studies, observation of Orthodox Jewish law . . . are all secondary to Yeshiva’s primary purpose.”
This is a decision with troubling implications for the future. It is an indication of courts pushing the new social norms of our progressive society. This was a lower court decision that will be appealed, but if this stands, it will not be the last application of this principle.
Matzav.com points out that this reinforces our community’s need to stand up for yeshiva independence and sends a message to a part of the Orthodox society that has – until now – been less concerned with government oversight of New York State’s yeshivos.
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Needs a new charter. The problem is that efforts to be or look non-sectarian can backfire mightily in today’s cultural climate.
I get to read college brochures and newsprint and the scrappy schools have been featuring this in their brochures. All the kid does is paint her hair and she or he gets their photo in the college material.
Screen your schools.
This country is doomed. Lib progressive judges who infest the entire country are destroying it , including Supreme Court of US except for 3 who refused to allow investigation of voter fraud.
They should go under Russia. Russia just introduced new law criminalizing “LGBT propaganda”.
You can’t have it both ways. It seems from the article, that Yeshiva University’s main purpose is as a University “exclusively for educational purposes.” This is probably a drastic change from it’s original charter which I would assume was as a Yeshiva or Shul. The change is usually done to be eligible for government grants. (Harvard started as a divinity school)
The same problem that the NY yeshivos are having. They take money for providing education, then complain when the state wants to impose educational standards.
The gedolim in Europe warned 100 years ago, if you take money, they will tell you what to do. Nothing is ever new in this world.
Taking money has nothing to do with NYS proposed regulations. They would apply whether you take money or not.
“Yeshiva is a university which provides educational instruction, first and foremost. Yeshiva’s religious character evidenced by required religious studies, observation of Orthodox Jewish law . . . are all secondary to Yeshiva’s primary purpose.”
That logic could be R’L used against any Yeshiva. Particularly those that offer a secular education.
Even if the court were correct that they are secondary to Yeshiva’s primary purpose how would that lessen the religious persecution involved?
And why can’t a school promote one club over another?
Say you have a school with clubs that promote making blood donations or helping the elderly. They also have clubs that promote drinking beer or sports betting. Why should the school need to promote them equally?
Didn’t Rav Gifter zt”l speak about this almost 40 years ago? Chol HAmoed Pesach, maybe 1986. Remember “Gifter Slaughters Lamm on Passover”
Yeah he said don’t dismiss this problem as just yu, if it can happen there it can happen anywhere
Vus epes YU and not the other Jewish colleges?
YU must now split up into independent divisions. The Torah division will then have a legitimate claim to a religious exemption from these regulations.
How soon will it be before some Hebrew Christian missionary student group demands similar rights and recognition at YU?
So pluralism it is??
Any legitimacy of deviancy is a dagger stab in the back
As long as the other branches separate totally and in no way term themselves orthodox – which is a far cry
these are probably the same people who are trying to get back at their parents through the NY board of education. what are these guys doing in YU? they are certainly not there to learn Torah. HaShem is sending a loud message to klal yisroel; are we listening? do we understand the message? עוזר דלים הושיע נא
Rav Gifter called them out on this decades ago.
If there was any Jewish integrity in that institution they would close up shop. Like they did in Volozin. For way less.
not so quite!
“In the 1890s, Berlin tried to arrange for his son, a good administrator, to succeed him as rosh yeshivah. The students, however, for the most part supported Soloveichik for the post, and the yeshiva was thrust into disorder. This aroused concern among Russian authorities that the yeshiva could turn into a hotbed of revolutionary activity, and they ordered the closing of the institution in 1892, citing noncompliance with demands for secular studies as an excuse. The Volozhin yeshiva reopened a few years later but never recovered its preeminence.”
source
https://yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Volozhin_Yeshiva_of
A Yeshiva cannot be a University.
A University cannot be a Yeshiva.
Wait until they go after your Yeshiva this is due to voting leftist lgbt supporters into office not secular studies
Time to close up shop if they have any integrity.
Its very sad that your reap what you sow. Alas they’ve had no problem with these groups on campus.
The bigger issue is that this is another shtup into Jewish education. If it can happen on why you, I can happen at any other Yeshiva as well. All you need is some moron to bring up a lawsuit. Look what’s happening with the education. You have a major loser involved and it’s turning over education.
ORA had its origins as YU club. YU clubs are what they are.
The real problem is page 11 which quotes the law that David greenfield and chain Deutsch voted for that limits religious exceptions. Today they apply to yu tomorrow bobov