Divorce Gets Messy When Husband Claims He Is Now A “Woman” So He Can’t Give A Get

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Two persons recently came to the Haifa Rabbinical Court fighting over a divorce. It turned out that one of them had undergone a gender-change operation. They married as a normative husband and wife and raised their children together. When the husband was operated on a year ago, the couple separated. The wife could not move on and date and marry anyone else, because she was still halakhically married to her “husband” – who had not given her a get.
After hearing the unusual situation, the dayanim decided that it is sufficient reason for granting a get, and there is no need to insist on the usually mandatory conciliation counseling as it clearly would not lead to reconciliation. The court ordered the parties to begin the process of divorce.
The husband then claimed he could not grant a get because he is no longer a man but a woman, and a woman is unable to grant a get halachically.
The wife then requested an annulment of the marriage, but the judges said that would not be possible since she married a man who is still a man halakhically. The judges decided that the husband had to give a get and if he did not, would be considered a get refuser and would be imprisoned as allowed by law.
The husband eventually agreed to give the get, but during the process recanted and explained that it was an emotional strain to be related to in the text of the get as a male, criticizing the court for ‘living in the Middle Ages’. After being warned again about possibly ending up in jail, s/he agreed to complete the process and give the get.
(Arutz Sheva)
{Matzav.com}

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    • the point is – to see if/how ch”v this sickness is infiltrating your community. this does not mean u have this exact problem, but try to see the roots of this insanity, and understand the sakanot of the early signs that may already be there. hope you understand.

      • i.e. this recent phenomenon did not pop up from nothing; rather it began with earlier lesser evils, but evils – anti torah ideas….. that we must fight bs”d….

    • “Why do we have to talk about such Tumah on this website!?”
      Because if you stick your head in the sand you’ll get poked from behind!

  1. “criticizing the court for ‘living in the Middle Ages’” – funny thing is that “it” is living in the dor hamabul which was way before the middle ages!!!

  2. The husband – who thinks it’s still Purim and is dressed as a woman – should either be taken to a mental asylum or jailed until “he” (not s/he) agrees to give a divorce. Period!

  3. Dear Editor,

    I humbly submit that you recognize that young or otherwise impressionable individuals visit your website.

    As such, this article is inappropriate. It has no news or amusement aspect.

    Please consider removing it.

    Thanks

    An avid reader!

  4. Please remove the s/he at the end of the article as it seems to imply the he may actually be a she. And though one can do a surgery to make them look like the other gender it still does not change their gender.

    • Right you are! If someone had a multi organ transplant (heart, kidney, lungs, liver) from someone that had just died, no one would ever claim that they are now that person who was the organ donor! So why do they think that cutting off their male organ and/or getting some hormone shots makes them a different gender?!? The world has gone mad and “doctors” who help facilitate this madness should lose their licenses.

  5. If a man desires and to be woman , arguably he will now have the obligations of a female due to ‘Shav’yei Anaf’shei Chaticha D’isura’, without accruing any of the advantages of being female

  6. It is important, since there are so many women that fear Hashem, being impacted by gett refusers. So if we frum. out too much we will transgress “do not idly stand by the blood of your neighbor, I am God”. The “I am God” part is for those who like to give themselves a heter.

  7. Its important to understand what women that fear Hashem are going through with gett. refusers. Otherwise we may transgress “do not stand idly by the blood of your neighbor, I am Hashem”. the last part is for those who try to exclude themselves from the transgression, because of lack of witnesses.

  8. The well known Mishna near the conclusion of Mesecta Sota states that in the Ikvasa D’Meshicha (in the era before Hashem redeems us with sending us Moshiach Tzidkaynu) “Chutzpa Yasgeh” – there will be an increase in people’s audacity.

    This hyper bizarre of bizarre of bizarre case is most absolutely a glaringly clear example this!! This severely wicked pervert, in his revolting demented delusion of being “changed” into a “woman,” claims that he cannot give his wife a Get because it wakes him up from his delusion as it reminds him that he is a man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No doubt that the hyper-wicked ACLU and the numerous other fanatic Toeiva activists operations, Yimach Shemam V’Zichram, will want to condemn this Beis Din for “hurting” this “poor” super-Toeiva guy with compelling him to remember that he is a man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. Df3, I do not think he’s talking about adult sex change operations… The circumstances he’s talking about which were recorded hundreds of years ago were when somehow a woman spontaneously grew male organs, and vice versa.. Simply “cutting and pasting” has no affect on one’s gender… The other teshuva, about babies, was referring to an androgenus…no shaycus at all

  10. Also, df3, your source is a pro transgender website… You obviously aren’t looking at this objectively, but are being influenced by the deluge of garbage online

  11. “Why do we have to talk about such Tumah on this website!?” Do you have a similar complaint when you read such topics in the Torah?
    Apparently the husband read about women abused by Get and twisted the situation to attempt assuming the victim role.

  12. Right you are! If someone had a multi organ transplant (heart, kidney, lungs, liver) from someone that had just died, no one would ever claim that they are now that person who was the organ donor! So why do they think that cutting off their male organ and/or getting some hormone shots makes them a different gender?!? The world has gone mad and “doctors” who help facilitate this madness should lose their licenses.

  13. I ADJURE ALL READERS TO GET A COPY OF THE HOLY RABBEINU CHANNANEL’S PIRUSH ON THE CHUMOSH.
    POSUK;ES ZOCHOR LO TISHKAVE MISHKVEI ISHO.

    • As many of us do not have access to the Peirush of Rabaynu Channanel on Chumash, could you please write here for us (translated into English) what he says?? Thanks.

  14. While our focus is now on our revulsion at the sick audacity of this wicked husband, B’Ezras Hashem, we must also do whatever we can to oppose and combat the terrible Toeiva movement and especially this horrific aspect of it (of the demented delusion of people “changing” their gender). Obviously, included in this sacred task is to oppose and combat whatever CAUSES and/or STRENGTHENS Toeiva.

    For an example: Please see the article on the official news site of the main campus of the University of California at https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/ and the article on the website of the National Center for Biotechnology Information, U.S. National Library of Medicine at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/. These articles relate about extensive scientific studies that were performed by the Department of Integrative Biology of the University of California at Berkeley. The studies were of various kinds of frogs who were exposed to the very commonly used herbicide “atrazine” — and the results were shocking!

    The vast majority of the male frogs totally lost their characterizations as “male” and a significant number, about 10% of the frogs, ACTUALLY DEVELOPED FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS, RACHMANA LITZLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    While the initial studies were with certain species of frogs, further investigations showed atrazine having similar effects on other amphibians, fish, reptiles, and rodents as well. Of course, the crucial question is: “what about atrazine & humans???” The answer is “yes,” the wreckage of the male & female hormones that atrazine does in various wildlife (resulting in the feminization of the males, R’L), also occurs to a small degree in humans, R’L.

    So a man (upon contact with atrazine) is not going to suddenly wake up the next day with ovaries growing inside of him! However, he may be one who begins to have Toeiva desires, R’L, and he may soon even begin to “feel,” R’L, that he really “should” be a woman, and he may soon even more strongly feel, R’L, that he absolutely “must” be a woman!! He will thus run to the office of the nearest gender-changing-surgeon and demand to be “made” into a woman!! And the gender-changing-surgeon, yimach shemo v’zichro, will be more than very, very happy to oblige!!

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